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| British Government Abolishes Freedom of Speech |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2011-10-11 15:22:36 |
| "BT, Sky, TalkTalk and Virgin will be asked to offer customers the option to block adult content during subscription According to new measures to be announced by Prime Minister David Cameron, online pornography watchers will have to place a special request with their Internet Service providers (ISPs) to watch pornographic or sexualised content online. The prime minister is holding a summit at No.10 today with 30 media and retail executives, including broadcasters, magazine editors, trade bodies and advertisers, said the Daily Mail. Cameron is expected to announce the crackdown after Mothers Union charity chief executive Reg Bailey submitted a report on the matter after six months of study." The fact that this can happen in Great Britain just goes to show how brittle concepts like freedom of speech really are. Where people in the Arab world fight for the kinds of freedom we have, we in the west just hand them over to extremists. Un-frakking-believable. Any British folk in here? How on earth did you guys let this happen? |
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| RE: This is opt-in...for the moment |
| By Icaria on 2011-10-13 03:27:53 |
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Whoops, sorry, missed the last part of your post. Edited 2011-10-13 03:28 UTC |
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| RE[3]: As a british subject |
| By Kivada on 2011-10-13 04:00:20 |
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OK, try never maintaining your car, how long before it dies from old oil and dirty filters, you can't pass emissions and get pulled over for having blown signal lights? There are plenty of computer shops out there, that just like mechanics, will do for you what you are too incompetent to do. Also, everything you're for is plain ass ignorance, and last I checked ignorance doesn't hold up in court, hence why you would be held responsible for running an open wifi router that someone else used for any nefarious act, just as in many places you would be fined if someone where to steal your car that you left the keys in and running. |
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| RE[4]: As a british subject |
| By Coxy on 2011-10-13 06:31:50 |
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"If you want to coddle your kids, do it yourself. Making it everyone else's responsibility (and making everyone else pay for it, in every sense of the phrase) is a cop-out. " Well we live in a society... well non-nerds unlike you. And you see, socities do things together. Otherwise we would all be osnews reading nerds at home wanking over porn instead of having wives and girdlfriends. Why don't you want people to protect their children? Do you have some kind of ulterior motive? Why is it so important that children are left to protect themselves? Does it help you in someway if they are not protected? "Buying a box and following a wizard isn't 'too difficult'. If you can't do that, then get the same geek who installed Office for you to do it. The reason most people don't bother is that they really don't give a shit; they'll just give the appearance of caring if asked. If you were really that worried, you would have sought advice and installed filtering software back when you first signed up with an ISP." Again I shouldn't have to buy anything when the ISPs can and should be doing this. Why ar you so childish that you can't admit to wanting to watch women sleeping with horses? If it does soemthing for you, be man enough to admit it. "Good job lashing out. You're responsible for kids, did you say? " Just behaving the way you are... I can see why you don't have children. "Shit analogy. " You mean it's an analogy you can't understand or to scared to admit that I was right. The analogy was perfectly sound... I guess your some dumb Yank who thanks to a poor US education thinks for some strange reason that apples and oranges can't be compared. "Now you're just childishly contradicting me. Again, you're responsible for kids? " Just showing you how annoying it is when someone behaves as childish as you... yes I have children... something your never know about, as inflatable ingrid can't give you any... Try living in the realworld with real people instead of plugging acomputer up your arse 24/7 and maybe your have some too... but I doubt it. "It's called special pleading, dear. If you think people who want to watch porn, "shou[ld] be adult enough to admit to wanting to watch it", you should be willing to front up and divulge all your deepest, darkest secrets, as an act of good faith and logical consistency." Dear? Are you gay? Is that why you dislike this proposal? Comeout if you like that kind of thing... and admit to it. I don't need to own up to anything... bad bid of logic there. Your the one who wants to watch porn not me. |
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| RE[4]: As a british subject |
| By Coxy on 2011-10-13 06:35:50 |
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Ok you numpty, do you have to install airbags yourself in your car? Seatbelts? A speeddial so that you can see how fast your going or maybe breaks so that you can slow down? If any of the above is correct then your post is ok... otherwise your just talking crap... calm down and think about it form the point of view of someone who isn't interested in computers 24/7 unlike you... |
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| RE[5]: As a british subject |
| By Icaria on 2011-10-13 08:45:08 |
| Wow, now that is some blatant trolling. Well, at least you forfeited the debate in style. |
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| RE[6]: As a british subject |
| By Coxy on 2011-10-13 09:38:42 |
| Your talking about yourself.... always resort to calling the other person a troll when you see that you have lost your argument. Very childish |
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| RE[3]: As a british subject |
| By Soulbender on 2011-10-13 15:29:20 |
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> Customise a car and tune it before I can drive one? You can already use the internet just fine without tuning. What you want is customization and for that you'll have to either learn how to do it yourself or pay someone. Just like when customizing and tuning a car. Edited 2011-10-13 15:30 UTC |
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| RE[5]: Question - a topical quote... |
| By jabbotts on 2011-10-13 17:30:43 |
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"Two guys are in love but they can't get married because you don't want to talk to your ugly child for fucking five minutes?" - Luis CK Sorry folks. It's not the place of the government or private business to raise your kids for you. It's called "being a parent"; take five minutes to talk to your ugly kids about the tough topics. |
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| I worry about you, UK. |
| By Ravyne on 2011-10-14 00:53:00 |
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If the system makes you opt-in to receive adult content (or, alternatively expressed, opt-out of the filtering which prevents delivery) then this is very worrying. If the system makes you opt-in to the filtering, then I'm not so bothered, except to the extent the government has taken it upon themselves at the request of the "Mother's Union", whatever that is (presumably, an organization full of conservative, worry-wart busy-bodies -- the type we also have here in the States, unfortunately.) What worries me about the government being involved, is that this sounds like an awful good way to test out a system which might block content that the government deems objectionable in the future. Although no suystem will be impenetrable, if you wanted to see how people might attempt to circumvent a filtering system 10 or 20 years from now, you could pick a worse place to start than looking at what today's kids are doing to get at porn. The overall trend in Britain recently is quite disturbing though. They're now the third most surveilled state in the world, just behind, IIRC, China and North Korea. Now their government may be preparing to implement the types of filtering that China and N. Korea already do -- and yet, the populace seems to be sitting by and saying "sure, but it won't be used that way here". It never is, until it is. Of course America is faring only marginally better over the past 10 years, and we have many other problems with Government. |
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| RE: Puzzled |
| By zima on 2011-10-18 23:59:32 |
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> Statistically: a surprisingly high proportion of child molestation comes from slightly older children. Adding easy child access to porn into that blend will not improve the mix. From research done till now, it's not very clear if porn makes things "worse" or "better" - but, it does leave open the possibility that it very well might even do the latter; or not be much of an influence on average. But, curious thing: according to the experiences of my a-decade-younger female buddies, the widespread phenomena of child molestation, of the type which you mention (mostly groping of any "blossoming" girl), went quite a bit downhill at my place, between middle of the 90s and middle of the "noughties" ...which would at least correlate with emergence of the times when web is available, giving easy access to porn. Or is it that by a certain kind of "political correctness" you mean inconvenient, not mythologically-inspired, facts? Edited 2011-10-19 00:18 UTC |
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