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Microsoft reveals Windows Server 2012 SKUs, just four
By Thom Holwerda on 2012-07-05 21:21:42
Microsoft is continuing its efforts to simplify its product lines, and has cut the number of versions for the next release of Windows Server down from twelve to just four: Datacenter, Standard, Essentials, and Foundation. Pretty straightforward. Windows Home Server gets axed, but then again, I don't think anybody bought Windows Home Servers anyway.
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Strange arbitrary limits.
By woegjiub on 2012-07-05 21:55:19
It is odd that they impose those strange, arbitrary limitations on the number of virtualised clients, and registered users.

To me, it makes no sense to buy any of those, given the limits, when it is possible to get fully-functional, fully supported server software for far cheaper elsewhere.

Does the windows logo still mean so much, even these days?
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Still confusing..
By martini on 2012-07-05 21:56:56
"Datacenter, Standard, Essentials, and Foundation."

If I don't check the MS page, I can not even guess what is the difference between Essentials and Foundation.

Just like the two IBM Lotus Notes types "Basic and Standard". ...should they call it "basic" and "plus" to understand which offers more functionality?

Edited 2012-07-05 21:57 UTC
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RE: Strange arbitrary limits.
By moondevil on 2012-07-05 22:04:10
Well in my company we are migrating a lot of projects from UNIX to Windows.
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RE[2]: Strange arbitrary limits.
By JPowers27 on 2012-07-05 23:04:06
Why? I can't see any advantage MS-Windows would have over UNIX.
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Windows Home Server
By n4cer on 2012-07-05 23:45:46
Windows Home Server has never been on the same release cycle as the business servers. It usually comes months later because they build additional functionality atop the base server. Unless there is word from MS, it's premature to say it's gotten the axe, especially when Storage Spaces provides a superior replacement to Drive Extender, and there are a number of improvements to manageability, and opportunities to tie into SkyDrive and other cloud services. They may, indeed, decide not to make a new version, but they've got the technologies available to make the best one yet -- even offering more embedded, appliance-like options.

Update: Home Server has actually been rolled into the Server Essentials SKU.
http://www.neowin.net/news/windo...

Edited 2012-07-06 00:02 UTC
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RE[3]: Strange arbitrary limits.
By judgen on 2012-07-05 23:59:04
If you can not find a single reason to move from original UNIX (not GNU/Linux) to windows you better hit the books my laddie =D
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RE[4]: Strange arbitrary limits.
By martini on 2012-07-06 02:55:02
I have a lot of money and I don't know where to spend it. I will switch from Unix to Windows to pay a lot of CAL licenses.

Maybe that is one reason.

Edited 2012-07-06 02:55 UTC
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Not happy about it.
By ronaldst on 2012-07-06 02:56:52
But I saw that one coming. Windows Server for a low price of 50$? Too bad WHS2011 was just an average release. No efforts were made to tailor it further for consumers (other than proper DLNA support).

I'll be moving my WHS2007 to Windows 8 Pro. Storage Spaces is fantastic and just what I need (Drive Extender on steroids). Remote Desktop is better then having to install WHS Console on select PCs.

Just need cheap mobos featuring "Centerton" Atoms, ECC RAM and plenty of SATA3 ports.
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Can someone explain this to me?
By Slambert666 on 2012-07-06 03:14:27
If I have an ASP.NET application that needs to run on a server in a organization that does not already have any licenses, what do I need to buy?
Lets say the org has 100 users and the app does not need AD or anything beyond IIS itself.
The app is taking care of authentication itself (no user accounts needed) just straight up ASP.NET.
From what I can see depending on the versions:
alt 1: 1 DataCenter Edition License + 100 CALs
alt 2: 1 Standard Edition License + 100 CALs
alt 3: 1 Essentials Edition License (no CALs needed)
alt 4: 1 Foundation Edition License (no CALs needed)
Is this correct? They removed CALs from Essentials and Foundation?
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RE: Can someone explain this to me?
By tanzam75 on 2012-07-06 04:58:37
For a web application that does its own authentication and does not call Active Directory, you do not need to buy any CALs at all.

IIS is considered to be a "specialty application," for which CALs are not necessary.

Windows Web Server never required CALs, either. CALs are really for Windows services -- file sharing, printer sharing, remote desktop, Active Directory, etc.

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