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Re-designing the classic email client
By Thom Holwerda on 2012-07-11 01:24:38
"We're able to produce absolutely stunning websites and mobile apps with great interaction design. Interfaces that are smooth and fun and let us understand information without even trying. But when it comes to email clients, we get a bit of a boring feeling, like using an old piece of software from 10 years ago. I think we can do better. So let's do that." Great ideas and beautiful design by Tobias van Schneider, but why he would forcefully shoehorn this clearly digital UI into Mac OS X is beyond me. It has no place there. This just screams Metro.
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Interesting timing with Thunderbird Dying
By willm.wade on 2012-07-11 01:48:37
This is the sort of think that should have been there with Thunderbird, but instead it is just going to fade away...
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Comment by kwan_e
By kwan_e on 2012-07-11 01:51:05
Maybe it's time designers learned to program
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Comment by tupp
By tupp on 2012-07-11 02:02:45
That web site by Tobias van Schneider is too cluttered and incomprehensible (and ugly).
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design
By dukes on 2012-07-11 02:18:53
Tobias' design reminds me a lot of the Sparrow e-mail app for OS X. Looks like a little bit more functionality needs to be programmed in to realize his design.
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RE: Comment by kwan_e
By kaiwai on 2012-07-11 02:20:37
> Maybe it's time designers learned to program

That is what XAML was meant to be for - programmers could focus on the heavy lifting backend whilst the front end could be worked on by experts in usability and design. Same can be done in the case of Mac OS X where backend and front end are separated rather than intermingled together.
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Author is wrong.
By tidux on 2012-07-11 02:22:31
Email HASN'T changed. It's still RFC822 format messages, delivered over a network via UUCP or SMTP. Just because your retarded client has an HTML rendering engine built in and executes attachments by default doesn't make it a different protocol.
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RE[2]: Comment by kwan_e
By ndrw on 2012-07-11 03:31:53
Thunderbird is already written mostly in XUL+JS and it doesn't seem to make much difference.
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RE: Comment by tupp
By Kivada on 2012-07-11 03:34:15
Yeah, this is yet another "designer" with a "solution" in search of a problem... We have far too many of those these days.

Edited 2012-07-11 03:34 UTC
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RE[3]: Comment by kwan_e
By Nelson on 2012-07-11 03:36:51
Except XUL doesn't hold a candle to XAML and the tooling around XAML is lightyears ahead.
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RE[2]: Comment by kwan_e
By WorknMan on 2012-07-11 04:45:04
> That is what XAML was meant to be for - programmers could focus on the heavy lifting backend whilst the front end could be worked on by experts in usability and design. Same can be done in the case of Mac OS X where backend and front end are separated rather than intermingled together.

So what happens if you're the programmer and don't have a designer working for you? I guess you're fundamentally boned. At least with Windows Forms and VB6, this wasn't really an issue.

As for the article in question, I can't really comment on it since I am visually impaired, and I can't use my screen reader, since the author made the whole f**king web page an image.

WHAT AN ASSHOLE!!!
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