|RISC OS for Raspberry Pi: aiming for a beta release in September|
|By Thom Holwerda on 2012-07-13 02:27:13|
|Good news for Raspberry Pi owners (ha!): the RISC OS port is progressing along nicely. So much so, in fact, that a Raspberry Pi-based RISC OS machine is in the works. Stable beta release of RISC OS for the Pi planned for September!|
|By uridium on 2012-07-13 02:54:35|
I've been sampling the alpha test images for this already. It's pretty nifty. Currently a few screen artifacts when dragging, only managed to crash it once. Seriously, coming along nicely. |
No sound support yet though. :)
Often they put dumps of the alpha image in this forum/thread:
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|By Coxy on 2012-07-13 04:36:57|
was the best OS ever... but it has had it's day. |
Shame, but it's true. IF only someone would port chocks away to the pc :(
What made me laugh was that this risc os event was held ina church... a very small church. Years a go you could go to wembley, to the exhibition centre... now it seems that a small church or community center will surfice.
Always see the same 12 people in attendance too. And I thought attendance at the "big" RISC OS event in wakefield were sad. Poor risc os, someone should take it into the backgarden and shoot it.
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|RE: Alpha tests|
|By LaceySnr on 2012-07-13 05:02:40|
|Thanks for the link — going to have to give this a spin on the weekend!|
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|Comment by trevj|
|By trevj on 2012-07-13 08:14:06|
Give it a whirl at a Raspberry Jam! |
The interpreted BASIC may not exactly have the best DDE. However, it does allow the effects of minor code modifications to be evaluated almost immediately.
Edited 2012-07-13 08:16 UTC
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|RE: Comment by trevj|
|By henderson101 on 2012-07-13 08:39:55|
It was never ideal, but I do remember using an app called something like Bas2Tex to convert the tokenised BASIC files to plain text for editing in a text editor. I think there was a similar one in reverse, or the same app did the reverse. If someone hasn't already combined that function with an IDE, I'd be very surprised. |
Back to the command line... The only weird part with the line editor was the COPY button. You'd press the cursor UP button and the cursor splits, then every time you pressed COPY it copied the char you had the split cursor on. Cumbersome. Not as esoteric as the Oric Atmos though, which used control A and copied in place. Ah, the British computer's should have ruled the world. Lol! We may not have had snazzy 8bit expand ability like the Apple 2, or hardware sprites like the C64 and Atari, but our stuff worked and we gave you ARM for your mobiles and embedded devices!!!
Edited 2012-07-13 08:41 UTC
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|By henderson101 on 2012-07-13 08:44:58|
Thom, remember : dreams and nostalgia are never as good as we remember or hope. The RISCOS is pretty crappy by today's standards. This is coming from a hardcore user that also owned hardware and did a lot of coding in BASIC for it in his school days. |
Edited 2012-07-13 08:45 UTC
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|Comment by uridium|
|By uridium on 2012-07-13 09:39:26|
Well.. here's hoping that the sheer number of Rpi punters out there swells that number by making it a nice easy entry level for people to get a taste of it. :)
Personally.. I think AmigaOS is the pinnacle of OS dev and has a special place in my heart. RiscOS is still nice though :)
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|By cptsalek on 2012-07-13 09:50:44|
What is the reasoning behind your statement? |
And what are "todays standards"?
RISC OS surely has its downsides, especially on a technology level (Filesystems, media handling, modules and module handling), but things are (slowly) improving here.
If I compare the current RISC OS alpha image to every available Linux image (yes, even those with armhf) I can't help to notice that RISC OS is the fastest OS on the Pi.
I tend to question the sanity behind "todays standards". No offense ment here, I sold my RISC PC for a 486 to run Linux on back in the days. But the development of Linux and Open Source went into the wrong direction years ago.
Modern GUIs such as Gnome and KDE become more and more bloated with every new release, which is even true for XFCE -- and it was invented to counter bloat in the first place w/o adding any real benefit or usability.
So, steadily the requirements increased, leaving behind older Hardware, requiring regular updates.
Dependencies are a mess nowadays, just try to setup a clean system from source w/o dbus, libsmbfs etc.
Lets not forget the users -- not us tech savvy folks who know the command line by heart -- but those people who turn on their computer to just get their things done. They don't understand why their desktop changes after an update, they expect their GUI to remain as it is, because they're happy with it.
They don't need a new theme every once in a while, or menus moving around at seemingly random (Firefox, for example).
That being said RISC OS is the userfriendliest OS I've ever seen, because Acorn was probably the first company to define binding style guides (with Apple taking a close second place). The WIMPs features are implemented consistently throughout the entire system (drag and drop, the use of the mouse, menus).
RISC OS applications open windows that give most of their space to contents (e.g. data the user wants to edit), presenting their functionality by pressing middle mouse button.
For me, RISC OS still has one of the best GUIs ever invented, and it certainly has its uses. That's why I fell in love with RaspPi, and I hope that RISC OS development and user base will gain some momentum now.
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|By Arawn on 2012-07-13 10:19:01|
Can't wait to try it on my RasPi, it will be my first encounter with RiscOS. :) And I'm glad the development of RiscOS is still going, we need alternatives to the common OSes. |
I just found what it seems a nice ARM platform, reasonably priced and it seemed to me it might be a good fit for RiscOS and similar OSes. The ODROID-X.
Very nice platform! Personally can't wait to have more choice than the standard x86 platforms.
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|By The123king on 2012-07-13 10:30:19|
Fast != better. |
ReactOS is faster than XP, but its definatly not bettter
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