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Windows 8's Achilles' heel: Metro applications
By Thom Holwerda on 2012-07-13 23:39:43
Ars Technica is running an interesting article about the Mail application on Windows 8. It's one of the first party Metro applications, and Ars' conclusion is that it's really, really not up to snuff - it can't even compare favourably to the mail application on Windows Phone. The sad thing is, however - this applies to virtually all Metro applications.
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MS seems to be killing itself
By sukru on 2012-07-14 00:25:59
Microsoft cannot seem to agree on a platform. Previously, they pushed the old Windows API (even the ones from 1.0 days) with tons of backwards compatibility hacks and patches, but it worked. And you knew that if you were to develop an app, it would continue to run on next year's windows - even phone with small modifications.

Currently there is no Microsoft UI framework that will run on Windows 7, Windows Phone 7, and Windows 8 (phone or desktop). At least Mac OS X had Cocoa and Carbon.
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Comment by Luminair
By Luminair on 2012-07-14 01:26:25
the apps built into windows were never a windows strength. they are a joke really. how many jokes can be told about solitaire or internet explorer. please.

that windows 8 takes one of the well known historical weaknesses of windows and places them front and center with no powerful third party ecosystem to back them up tells you how blind microsoft management is. people use metro and go "pretty, this is it?"
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Too many platforms
By sydbarrett74 on 2012-07-14 02:07:25
Microsoft keeps piling API's on top of each other, and abandoning the lower-level ones. There's Win32, .NET, WinRT -- and after MS pulls programmers along, they seem to cut the cord and switch horses mid-stream. I blame Ballmer -- when Gates was at the helm, MS seemed to have more singular focus and consistency. Ballmer keeps chasing trends rather than having any overall vision of what he wants Microsoft to be.
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WP7 Third Party...
By DDevine on 2012-07-14 02:25:59
Stop bitching about third party app performance on WP7. It's really not that bad in my experience. And the quality of third party apps is usually no worse than most Android apps (though definitely not as good as Microsoft's own WP7 apps).
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Comment by grahamtriggs
By grahamtriggs on 2012-07-14 06:36:37
Buggy applications in a pre-release is hardly surprising, and not necessarily majorly concerning.

For some people (like me) there is going to be a more fundamental issue - Metro applications simply do not behave and function in the way I expect and need of applications running on a "full fat" PC.

That's not just a bug that can be fixed, it's part of the basic design of what it means to be a Metro application, and they can't change that.
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Microsoft needs to drop the secrecy
By ronaldst on 2012-07-14 07:20:06
People need to see how full metro apps will work out. I don't believe we've seen everything. And they're holding back some candy from us.




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And a nicer paint job on the Start screen wouldn't hurt. It's just as fugly as on WP7.
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RE: Comment by Luminair
By WorknMan on 2012-07-14 08:55:41
> the apps built into windows were never a windows strength. they are a joke really. how many jokes can be told about solitaire or internet explorer. please.

I was just about to say this. Who uses ANY of the built-in Windows apps anyway?

- Internet Explorer? Crap
- Media Player? Crap
- Windows Explorer? Brings the crappiness to a whole new level
- Paint? LMAO
- Mail? Not even included in Windows 7

Hell, even Notepad is pretty lame. I guess about the only one I use is Calculator, as it generally does what I need it to do (which, admittedly isn't much).
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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
By moondevil on 2012-07-14 09:00:02
> I was just about to say this. Who uses ANY of the built-in Windows apps anyway?

I do.
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RE: Too many platforms
By moondevil on 2012-07-14 09:02:38
Yeah, like it does not happen in other operating systems as well.

What are the Linux APIs, besides the POSIX standard, that are stable across distributions?

What Mac OS X from the early days are now deprecated?
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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
By WorknMan on 2012-07-14 09:14:11
> I do.

Much to learn, you still have :)
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