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New Icaros Desktop supports old Amiga M68K applications
By special contributor paolone on 2012-07-20 19:21:46
The AROS distribution Icaros Desktop has made its next step towards compatibility with legacy Amiga workbench applications, including an entire AROS enviroment compiled for the classic Amiga platform, which is almost binary compatible with the original Amiga OS 3.1 (and its extensions). When the user needs an old program, he or she only has to fire up the AROS M68K environment and run the application. The Amiga virtual machine can optionally be set to run at startup like a system service.
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AMOS Pro is included?
By iMissBeOS on 2012-07-20 19:51:35
That's AWESOME! I loved working with AMOS back in the early-to-mid 90's. Francoise Lionet was/is a genius - he and his crew made a wonderfully accessible and powerful programming language for the Amiga. I spent many, many, many hours designing games in AMOS. Fun stuff!
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Awesome
By ferrels on 2012-07-20 20:45:00
I've been using the latest version of Icaros Desktop for the past couple of days now. The new coherency mode that allows you to run 68K apps just like they're native AROS apps was a bit touchy getting it configured properly. But once it's set up properly it works great. It's awesome to see a native 68K application such as Ignition open up on its own window in the same manner as a native AROS app.

If things keep improving at the current pace I think Icaros Desktop will be ready for everyday use in a few months. It just needs more native apps and broader hardware support. A fully functional AROS port port of Ignition and a Flash player would go a long way in making Icaros useful for everyday tasks.
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Comment by Minuous
By Minuous on 2012-07-21 01:23:11
>integrating Amiga Forever from Cloanto into Icaros installations has been the only way to get a perfect compatibility with older AmigaOS applications

You don't need Amiga Forever nor AROS for this.
AROS is still missing large chunks of functionality. Eg. the standard GUI since 1999 is ReAction, this is not supported at all by AROS, neither are OS3.5/3.9 API calls.
WinUAE+OS3.9 still provides the best compatibility. I'm not sure why anyone would want to run AROS instead.
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RE: Comment by Minuous
By AmigaRobbo on 2012-07-21 10:01:00
Because of the 'win' bit of winUAE?
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RE[2]: Comment by Minuous
By moondevil on 2012-07-21 11:23:38
> Because of the 'win' bit of winUAE?

Most of the Amiga users I know are happy Windows users.

Maybe it helps that at least in the demoscene no one cares about open source.
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RE: Comment by Minuous
By ferrels on 2012-07-21 18:09:54
Somehow you've comploetely missed the entire point of AROS. AROS was never intended to be another way to emulate Amiga 68K software. AROS is a reimplementatin of Amiga OS 3.1 on modern hardware with new extensions that allow AROS users to have all the things they'd expect from a modern system, such as 3D hardware acceleration using Gallium3D.. The article was just stating that if you want to emulate Amiga 68K software under AROS, it's now seamless. Stop trolling.
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RE: Comment by Minuous
By fx__ on 2012-07-21 18:41:43
Are you serious about Reaction? Has there been any 68k programs that actually require Reaction except the ones that are bundled with AmigaOS3.9 (and 3.5?)?

I have been running AmigaOS3.1 on my A1200 lately and don't think I stumbled on a single program that requires Reaction.
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RE[3]: Comment by Minuous
By strim on 2012-07-21 20:10:32


Edited 2012-07-21 20:10 UTC
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RE[3]: Comment by Minuous
By sergio on 2012-07-21 22:24:48
Mmm... I don't think so. Mac always was the 2nd platform of Amiga users. The use of PowerPC isn't casual.

Personally, I prefer AROS to WinUAE any day. I can run Icaros under VMware Fusion without paying any Windows license.
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RE: AMOS Pro is included?
By bassbeast on 2012-07-22 07:16:04
That's nice but I have a question: Other than nostalgia what is the point?

I mean I can understand why you'd want Amiga back in the day, with its specialized chips it was a multimedia monster in an age where a 30 FPS 320x240 video on anybody else was frankly impossible.

But why now? what does Amiga offer that the others don't? You don't have the killer specialized hardware anymore since everyone uses the same bog standard stuff, it frankly can't hold a candle to a modern Windows, OSX, or Linux when it comes to multitasking, so other than nostalgia what is the appeal?

Not trying to troll, and if anybody was waiting for this please do enjoy it, i'm just trying to understand what the appeal is here. I mean I get maybe firing up a VM once in a while just to relive memories, but what is the point of completely rebuilding a long dead OS like this?
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