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Dead Trigger for Android free due to high piracy rates
By Thom Holwerda on 2012-07-23 12:57:06
Without giving any detailed information, Madfinger Games announced that because the piracy rates of their game Dead Trigger were so high on Android, they made the game available for free. This sucks balls. I'm interested in more detailed statistics, especially where, exactly, the piracy rate is highest, considering you can only get paid Google Play applications in 31 countries, and then, often only with a credit card (which many people outside of the US don't have and/or use). It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if those piracy rates mostly come from places without paid applications support and/or with lousy payment options. In any case, Google needs to get its act together with the Play Store.
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RE[5]: What about kids?
By tanishaj on 2012-07-23 14:25:06
> My debit card works anywhere my credit card works online... is this not the case with European debit cards?

This is pretty much a U.S. phenomenon. Even in Canada, there is nothing like the "VISA debit" cards you see in the US. Debit cards and credit cards are very different animals. If a merchant only accepts credit, debit card carriers are out-of-luck.
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RE[5]: What about kids?
By Thom_Holwerda on 2012-07-23 14:28:36
> I don't use my credit cards a lot. But I do have them.

You are aware you can just ask your bank for one ?


A credit card costs money. On top of that, it's a cultural thing. A least here in The Netherlands, credit cards carry a stigma, because they're associated with spending money you don't have and getting into serious financial trouble. People are actually afraid of them, and would rather not own one. As far as payment methods go, credit cards are pretty damn expensive.

With a debit card you spend the money you actually own. That seems like a small difference, but it's actually a huge conceptual shift.

Edited 2012-07-23 14:29 UTC
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RE[6]: What about kids?
By _txf_ on 2012-07-23 14:44:44
Personally I've never had issues. I just set payment to 100% and never spend over my limits.

These days there are also other kinds of credit cards. Here in Portugal we have MBnet which is like a virtual credit card for online shopping. You set a limit and whatever you buy gets taken out of your account like a debit card. It is recognized internationally as a credit card and works well.

You can also get pre-paid (I imagine it is only used for travelling).

But either way I like having a safety net. Sure I pay for it, but you never know when you're going to have an emergency.
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RE[6]: What about kids?
By Laurence on 2012-07-23 14:50:02
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Nope. They are two entirely different things, and not interchangeable. Play wants a credit card, not a debit card.

They are interchangeable in the UK (eg VISA Debit) and my debit card works on Google Play.

Edited 2012-07-23 14:50 UTC
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Comment by ephracis
By ephracis on 2012-07-23 14:51:19
My bank (Swedbank) has a free service where I can create a digital credit card. I choose the amount of money, the expiration date (default of one month) and I get an image of a credit card in my browser containing all information I need (number,name,ccv,etc).

I really enjoy this. I could setup a card with an expiration date far into the future and use it everywhere if I want to. However, I choose to always create a new card whenever I need to buy something online. That way I never have to fear that the information will get stolen and someone will start to charge me, since I already spent all the money that is associated with the card (and it only lasts a month anyway). Also makes it a bit harder to spend my money which is always a good thing.

And I also want to add to what Thom said. Carrying a CC has a stigma associated with it. Not only does the card itself cost money, but the whole idea is that you spend money you don't have and pay interest on it. Most young adults here don't have a CC, they only carry a debit card.

I know more friends who have a land line (!) than a credit card. :)
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RE[3]: What about kids?
By smashIt on 2012-07-23 14:58:51
> Are you going to tell us how you pay for things?

cash when possible

> What are the alternate payment options?

on amazon.at direct debit and purchase orders in addition to credit cards
amazo.co.uk won't accept direct debit and purchase orders
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I'd like to call BS on this............
By OMRebel on 2012-07-23 15:11:21
I'm gonna call PS on piracy being the reason the 99 cent app was changed to free. I think this is a publicity stunt. I downloaded it today to see what the fuss was about, and found the game's controls to be really cruddy on my Galaxy S II (pretty much like all FPS games on phones). I think this was just a way for the developers to create a "buzz" around the game in hopes to get people to download it and spend money on the IAP's.

Now, I'm not saying piracy doesn't happen - of course it does. And Google has addressed this in Jelly Bean. But, I am wondering HOW the developer is able to track how many times their app was actually pirated? Word of mouth? News groups? And like Thom asked, where was the piracy taking place? The developers seem rather short on stats and more focused on getting the word around about their app.
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RE[6]: What about kids?
By EvilMonkeySlayer on 2012-07-23 15:25:47
I think it's more common over here (Europe) that you shouldn't spend money you don't have.

I myself have never owned a credit card, I've got my visa debit card provided by my bank and that's it.
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RE[4]: What about kids?
By henderson101 on 2012-07-23 15:35:11
> We use debit cards for everything.

Yes here too. Except, in the UK our Debit Cards have a provider linked to them. They still act *just like* a Debit Card (money comes from personal bank account, lack of funds will prevent use etc), but because they are Visa/MasterCard (majority, some used to be Solo), they will also work anywhere a "credit card" is required. Personally, my Debit Card is with Barclays and is a Visa Debit. It works everywhere, world wide, where Visa is accepted. If your cards don't work like that, well, they should.
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RE[6]: What about kids?
By henderson101 on 2012-07-23 15:36:55
> > is this not the case with European debit cards?

Nope. They are two entirely different things, and not interchangeable. Play wants a credit card, not a debit card.


Not in the UK. I use my Debit Card anywhere a US company wants a Credit Card with zero issues.
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