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Valve’s Gabe Newell: Windows 8 will be catastrophe for PC space
By Thom Holwerda on 2012-07-26 00:28:40
Valve's Gabe Newall on Linux and Windows 8: "We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well. It's a hedging strategy. I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space. I think we'll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people. If that's true, then it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality."
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Repeat of XP -> Vista ?
By benali72 on 2012-07-26 00:47:46
If Win 8 fails, the most likely scenario will be a repeat of what happened with Vista --

+ MS will extend the life of Win 7
+ OEMs will preload Win 7 instead of Win 8
+ Corporations will stick with Win 7 instead of upgrading to Win 8
+ We'll have a lot of goofiness with Windows upgrade/downgrade privileges

Win 8 is all about Microsoft's need to get a toehold in the handheld space. They expect their desktop users to pay their entry fee.

Users need to figure this out and act to protect their own interests, 'cause MS sure isn't going to.
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Comment by Wafflez
By Wafflez on 2012-07-26 00:52:01
ArsTechnica covered this too:
> Newell is not a disinterested third party. Valve makes money from the commission it takes on Steam sales. Windows 8, with its built-in Windows Store, challenges that revenue source. Features such as Xbox LIVE integration could make the Windows Store and Windows 8 a more appealing platform for gamers and developers alike than Steam.
That, I think, is a fine journalism. They not only present with "boo boo window 8 suxx", but also give an opinion that Microsoft's App Store will take a lot of Valve's money.

And I know that I'd rather have Live integration than that POS steam client.

So, yeah. :)

Edited 2012-07-26 00:58 UTC
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Interesting but wrong
By Gullible Jones on 2012-07-26 01:44:17
Microsoft has Windows 7 to fall back on. If Windows 8 is a flop, they'll go back to the old Win7 interface paradigm for the next version in the interests of maintaining their desktop monopoly. Only this time they'll brand it as a totally new thing. Maybe they'll add dynamic tiling support and claim it's their innovation, I don't know... They'll find a way to hype it somehow. Perhaps they'll split Windows into tablet and desktop editions.

Seriously though - these people did not make money by being stupid. Windows 8 is a bit on the wild and wooly side, but it's backed up by a solid product that has been a huge success. They're not going to let one wrongheaded idea eat the company.
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RE: Interesting but wrong
By Soulbender on 2012-07-26 01:52:54
> They're not going to let one wrongheaded idea eat the company.

It wouldn't be without precedent though, if it happened.
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RE: Interesting but wrong
By fengshaun on 2012-07-26 02:02:42
> Maybe they'll add dynamic tiling support and claim it's their innovation, I don't know... They'll find a way to hype it somehow.

+1 internetz to you sir!

As an Archlinux user, I'm quite happy about Steam's decision to support linux in case Windows goes all Down's syndrome on them!

Let's face it, for a lot of us, Windows is taking up valuable space on the HDD for games!
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RE: Repeat of XP -> Vista ?
By shmerl on 2012-07-26 02:07:34
MS domination is deteriorating, and it's natural. Their particular failures just speed up the issue.
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It's not whether windows 8 will fail
By stabbyjones on 2012-07-26 02:26:56
It's whether metro will fail to catch on with Windows 8.

And it will fail spectacularly.

The Windows 8 desktop experience is amazing. There are so many things they've done right including getting rid of the start menu. The whole desktop experience is the best Windows environment I've used.

Where they've fallen over is everything related to Metro is:
Terrible.
Unfinished.
Useless.
Absolute garbage.

It might take another 5 or 10 years to move away from the desktop. But as it stands the NT desktop can't leave yet. Microsoft would have to be Nokia to think that Metro only is a good idea.

Edited 2012-07-26 02:27 UTC
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RE: Comment by Wafflez
By dvhh on 2012-07-26 02:27:35
Pity that GFWL totally suck ass compared to any other alternative I can remember.
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RE[2]: Interesting but wrong
By Gullible Jones on 2012-07-26 02:31:24
It wouldn't, but at this point Microsoft is Too Big To Fail - as in, they are incapable of failing, barring government intervention or the collapse of civilization. They have a self-perpetuating monopoly on general-purpose desktop computing; they will become obsolete when software itself becomes obsolete.

(And yes, that's a really stupid situation, and no, I don't like it and I hope it passes. But I'm not going to fool myself into believing that's likely, either.)
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Xbox is the way to go for Ms.
By sergio on 2012-07-26 02:33:24
Well, Xbox platform is closed, totally controlled and very profitable.

I think that turning Windows 8 into a gaming disaster is a really smart business decision.
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