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| Valve’s Gabe Newell: Windows 8 will be catastrophe for PC space |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-07-26 00:28:40 |
| Valve's Gabe Newall on Linux and Windows 8: "We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well. It's a hedging strategy. I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space. I think we'll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people. If that's true, then it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality." |
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| RE[2]: Interesting but wrong |
| By Gullible Jones on 2012-07-26 02:33:49 |
| The Linux graphics stack is going to have to shape up a bit first. And I sure as heck hope that doesn't mean forcing Wayland on everyone. |
 - Score: 1 |
| RE: Comment by Wafflez |
| By flynn on 2012-07-26 03:18:02 |
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> Microsoft's App Store will take a lot of Valve's money. No, it won't. You are severely underestimating PC gamers' love of Gaben and hatred of GFWL. > And I know that I'd rather have Live integration than that POS steam client. You are in the severe minority. Live integration on PC exists, it's called Games For Windows LIVE, and it's universally reviled as an ungodly abortion of a system. Look at all those people that were clamoring for a PC port of Dark Souls claiming they would buy it in a second; most of them are now whining and back peddling after the GFWL integration was announced. |
| - Score: 9 |
| RE[3]: Interesting but wrong |
| By 1c3d0g on 2012-07-26 03:54:50 |
| Sure Wayland needs work, as it's still a WIP, but it WILL be the default instead of X in the coming years, that's non-debatable. |
| - Score: 8 |
| That is why... |
| By fithisux on 2012-07-26 04:05:27 |
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we need more OSes (like we need more programming languages). Hardware vendors should help in this way. for example the IOMMU movement helps uKernel OSes. But ACPI must be shortened/simplified HW specs must move things inside the chipset and simplified more More OS friendly/independent HW standards should be produced (e.g. GFX / GPGPU ) In any case the HW vendors should help the OS ecosystem by simplification/standardizat ion and driver replacement by stacks. Where is the UEFI driverless promise???? |
| - Score: 3 |
| RE: It's not whether windows 8 will fail |
| By tomcat on 2012-07-26 04:44:07 |
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> It's whether metro will fail to catch on with Windows 8. And it will fail spectacularly. The Windows 8 desktop experience is amazing. There are so many things they've done right including getting rid of the start menu. The whole desktop experience is the best Windows environment I've used. Where they've fallen over is everything related to Metro is: Terrible. Unfinished. Useless. Absolute garbage. It might take another 5 or 10 years to move away from the desktop. But as it stands the NT desktop can't leave yet. Microsoft would have to be Nokia to think that Metro only is a good idea. Just once, it might be nice to read a post from you that you haven't completely pulled out of your ass. |
| - Score: 1 |
| RE: Xbox is the way to go for Ms. |
| By tomcat on 2012-07-26 04:44:57 |
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> Well, Xbox platform is closed, totally controlled and very profitable. I think that turning Windows 8 into a gaming disaster is a really smart business decision. +1 |
| - Score: 1 |
| RE: Interesting but wrong |
| By atsureki on 2012-07-26 04:56:12 |
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> Seriously though - these people did not make money by being stupid. That's right, they didn't. Steve Ballmer was not in charge yet. http://www.asymco.com/2012/07/10... http://www.vanityfair.com/online... |
| - Score: 5 |
| RE: Xbox is the way to go for Ms. |
| By Nth_Man on 2012-07-26 05:46:17 |
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> Well, Xbox platform is closed, totally controlled and very profitable. I would like to question: How do we know that it's very profitable? Also I would like to remember that there are some products that aren't profitable at all (Bing comes to my mind now, but it's difficult to know exactly how much does it costs yearly to Microsoft). Those cases happen for reasons like "market presence", "advertisement", "branding", "leave the impression that we are also there", "don't leave the others get all the market", etc. There are signs in the Xbox case that tell us something: there is 3DS and PSVita, but there is no portable Xbox. If xbox was a successful product, would we see portable Xboxes? They would not let pass the chance to earn money. Edited 2012-07-26 06:01 UTC |
| - Score: 1 |
| RE[2]: Xbox is the way to go for Ms. |
| By Thom_Holwerda on 2012-07-26 06:24:35 |
| Dedicated portable gaming devices are a dead end. Mobile phones take on that role now. WP7 has Xbox Live integration. |
| - Score: 2 |
| RE: Comment by Wafflez |
| By _txf_ on 2012-07-26 07:21:28 |
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> And I know that I'd rather have Live integration than that POS steam client. GFWL is utter dogsh*t, MS completely fumbled the ball on that one. Frankly Steam is far better. And you can install games on whatever system you want (I have games that are installed on osx AND on windows and soon on linux). Frankly Steam has a lot of goodwill from the community because they don't nickel and dime the users and developers, like MS tends to do on Xbox Live and probably will do with the windows app store (the temptation is to great). Edited 2012-07-26 07:22 UTC |
| - Score: 6 |
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