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| Valve to offer applications through Steam |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-08-08 18:45:24 |
| Valve has just announced it will start selling applications through Steam. "The Software titles coming to Steam range from creativity to productivity. Many of the launch titles will take advantage of popular Steamworks features, such as easy installation, automatic updating, and the ability to save your work to your personal Steam Cloud space so your files may travel with you. More Software titles will be added in an ongoing fashion following the September 5th launch, and developers will be welcome to submit Software titles via Steam Greenlight." I feel like a broken record at this point, but guys and girls, Valve is going to release specifications for a 'Steambox'. A set of minimum specifications a Linux or Windows machine has to adhere to, either self-built or by an OEM. Steam pre-installed, can be used as regular PC and as a console. With Windows 8 locking itself down, this is their only option - and I applaud it. |
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| RE: Windows 8 is not a lockdown |
| By Kroc on 2012-08-09 08:21:33 |
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> The lockdown is a lie. On x86. Not on ARM though. |
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| RE[2]: Windows 8 is not a lockdown |
| By dgoemans on 2012-08-09 08:45:50 |
| Sure, but there are no large ARM OS vendors that don't ship with an app store. Apple infact bans distribution of other app stores. And Steam has never competed on ARM. |
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| RE[3]: Windows 8 is not a lockdown |
| By Thom_Holwerda on 2012-08-09 09:46:29 |
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Smart people don't look at today, they look at tomorrow. Denying Microsoft is working to lock Windows down entirely is short-sighted, and completely out of touch with reality. |
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| RE[5]: Package management |
| By lucas_maximus on 2012-08-09 10:49:29 |
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So you don't reboot into it regularly and you are surprised that there are more updates and they take longer to install? I am sure if I didn't boot my fedora core installation in 3 months it would take a while to download and install all the updates. Edited 2012-08-09 11:06 UTC |
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| RE[6]: Package management |
| By dylansmrjones on 2012-08-09 11:50:56 |
| The poster did not appear to be surprised, but rather the poster was annoyed. Which isn't surprising. But a 20 minute bootup time still seems awfully long in my eyes, but perhaps it is different for users of windows server 2008. We may not get that many updates anymore or what? Or what is just a bit of hyperbolean logic? |
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| RE: Comment by Kroc |
| By dylansmrjones on 2012-08-09 11:52:49 |
| The Kroc Law? :p |
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| RE[7]: Package management |
| By lucas_maximus on 2012-08-09 12:03:22 |
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10 minute boot up time after a service pack on my 7 year old machine, that is one big update and It happens once per install, other updates install silently in the background and the boot-up is only slightly longer than a minute or two afterwards. I am sorry but I simple don't believe them. It not my experience using Windows 7 and my hardware is "old". First gen Core 2 duo and an ancient nForce 6 motherboard. My laptop is a 1.2ghz Core 2 duo, with a 4200rpm drive ... and even then the updates don't take that long. Also lets not forget, the system asks you whether you want to postpone the reboot. As for the semantics between surprised and annoyed, they usually come together being part of a negative reaction towards something ... in anycase arguing semantics when the meaning is quite clear is pointless and doesn't really move the conversation on. Edited 2012-08-09 12:05 UTC |
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| RE[4]: Windows 8 is not a lockdown |
| By karunko on 2012-08-09 14:01:34 |
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> Denying Microsoft is working to lock Windows down entirely is short-sighted, and completely out of touch with reality. True, but the same could be said about Apple and, despite all the "thumbs up" Valve is getting both here and around the web, the truth is that Valve is free to change their ToS at will, and since Steam is really a subscription service, if you don't agree to the new terms... puff! all your software is gone (see http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/c... and http://i.imgur.com/YM7Hq.png in particular). I wouldn't mind too much if it's just games that I completed and I'm non likely to play again anyway, but productivity software is another matter altogether. Call me a pessimist, but it seems to me that we're heading slowly but surely towards a future of locked down hardware and rented software -- which just makes me appreciate open source even more. RT. Edited 2012-08-09 14:04 UTC |
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| RE[2]: ARM? Good things come to those who wait |
| By dsmogor on 2012-08-09 14:03:57 |
| They are certainly doing something HW wise themselves. If you follow Jeri Elisworth on tw you'll see she's doing custom IC work for them. |
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| RE[7]: Package management |
| By Gone fishing on 2012-08-09 14:39:06 |
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> But a 20 minute bootup time still seems awfully long in my eyes.logic? Ten minutes to shut down whilst downloading updates and installing updates then ten minutes to start up while windows configures updates 20 minutes in total. > So you don't reboot into it regularly and you are surprised that there are more updates and they take longer to install? I am sure if I didn't boot my fedora core installation in 3 months it would take a while to download and install all the updates. I'm sure if I didn't run my Ubuntu or Debian box for a while it would take a while to download and install updates. What it wouldn't do is take 10 minutes to shut down while it was downloading the updates with no get out option and then take 10 minutes to apply them on next start up again with no option for just starting. |
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