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| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-08-08 22:29:47 |
| The future of GNOME - an interesting subject. GNOME 3 has been out and about for a while, and it hasn't exactly been a smashing success. One of the efforts to take GNOME to the next level is what the team refers to as GNOME OS - but in reality, it's a set of improvements to GNOME that are just as interesting to GNOME-the-desktop-environment. |
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| no real alternates |
| By stabbyjones on 2012-08-08 23:27:41 |
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I just installed XFCE 4.8 and razor-qt 0.4.1 to play around in last night. I really enjoying these smaller DE's but still miss the completeness that gnome offers. It feels safer knowing that GNOME has the complete application/applet/backgrou nd processes under control. What surprised me was that in spite of me not liking KDE, razor-qt is awesome! It's a young project but it's simple and to the point, any QT fans should check it out. I will probably always default to GNOME because I've never really had any problems with it but if there's one thing GNOME needs, it's that GNOME OS / KDE SC direction. Too many arbitrary changes occur out of nowhere for no real reason other than personal preference. Edited 2012-08-08 23:30 UTC |
 - Score: 5 |
| Build it, and they will come |
| By ggeldenhuys on 2012-08-08 23:49:38 |
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"These people have a vision" I don't know, I think they are as blind as a bat! They can't fix the mess called Gnome 3, and now they want to venture into a whole "Gnome OS". Can't they see what a mess they made, and how just about nobody likes Gnome 3. Anyway, the whole Linux "desktop environment" is in shambles at the moment. All these DE's are forcing users to go back to the basics - simple lightweight Window Managers. JWM you rock!! Thanks KDE4, Gnome3 and Unity for making me see the light. I don't want to fight my "desktop environment", I simply want to run a few damn applications, and get on with my work. |
| - Score: 18 |
| Just what are these guys thinking? |
| By Dekonega on 2012-08-08 23:53:00 |
| They're insane if they're going to believe this will work out. They should fix Gnome 3 first and get it on a stage where it is actually usable. And only after that they should run an experiment like this. |
| - Score: 7 |
| RE: Build it, and they will come |
| By Hiev on 2012-08-08 23:55:22 |
| I'm sorry, but I like GNOME 3, I love it,so speak for your self. |
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| RE: Just what are these guys thinking? |
| By Hiev on 2012-08-08 23:55:59 |
| As someone who uses GNOME Shell daily for work, I can tell you is not broken to me. |
| - Score: 6 |
| RE: Just what are these guys thinking? |
| By dc.ricardo on 2012-08-09 00:03:04 |
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There is nothing to be fixed. Just improved. KDE4.9 (Desktop) and Gnome 3.4 (Notebook) user here. The effort to become a nice developer platform is really welcome. Edited 2012-08-09 00:04 UTC |
| - Score: 3 |
| RE[2]: Build it, and they will come |
| By Delgarde on 2012-08-09 00:30:01 |
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> I'm sorry, but I like GNOME 3, I love it,so speak for your self. Likewise. We get that some people don't like it, but there are also those of us very happy with Shell. |
| - Score: 5 |
| RE: Build it, and they will come - to a dead end. |
| By tomz on 2012-08-09 01:21:38 |
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After turning in the wrong direction, continuing 'ahead', much less accelerating will only get you farther from the goal. Someone needs to fork gnome2, or perhaps just work with xfce. |
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| RE: no real alternates |
| By joekiser on 2012-08-09 01:37:27 |
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KDE is awesome, I am running it on an X120e with no problems. Classic taskbar/menu setup, but also has the Gnome-shell style expose feature when you throw the mouse to the top left corner of the screen. There already was a Gnome OS, it was the standard desktop on UNIX-like systems for almost a decade. It was designed based on millions of dollars of UI research paid for by Sun Microsystems and Ximian, used in enterprise operating systems like RHEL and Solaris, and desktop systems like Ubuntu. It was replaced by a toy shell. I hope Canonical or RedHat or somebody big buys Qt and standardizes on a modified KDE. KDE is almost there, but it needs polish. It lacks consistency and sane default settings, kind of like what Gnome was before Ximian came along. I can't see Gnome-shell replacing the old Gnome 2.x in enterprise environments, and it doesn't seem that the developers even want that to happen. |
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| RE[2]: Build it, and they will come - to a dead end. |
| By Delgarde on 2012-08-09 01:51:00 |
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> Someone needs to fork gnome2 It's been done, it's called MATE, and to be honest, it's a joke. If you don't like the Gnome 3 UI, the answer isn't to fork Gnome 2 - it's to fork Gnome 3 to restore the old UI. Remember, Gnome 3 isn't just a UI change - it's also a huge cleanup of the codebase, throwing away all the bad API decisions that they'd been forced to live with for years. If you fork Gnome 2, you've got to adopt all of the code they're not maintaining any more. Bad idea. |
| - Score: 10 |
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