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GNOME OS detailed: new application framework, SDK, and more
By Thom Holwerda on 2012-08-08 22:29:47
The future of GNOME - an interesting subject. GNOME 3 has been out and about for a while, and it hasn't exactly been a smashing success. One of the efforts to take GNOME to the next level is what the team refers to as GNOME OS - but in reality, it's a set of improvements to GNOME that are just as interesting to GNOME-the-desktop-environment.
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RE[3]: Build it, and they will come
By orestes on 2012-08-09 02:58:33
Indeed. I'm quite happy with where Gnome-shell is at the moment compared to it's predecessors at similar points in their respective lifecycles. The handful of niggles that do still bug me are easy enough to fix with extensions or a little custom scripting.

What I'm less amused with is the preoccupation some devs in Gnome and the other prominent projects have with building tablet UIs at the expense of desktop. Yeah, yeah, the bobbleheaded pundits have been blathering on about the post PC era and moving to tablets forever but really I wish they'd sit down, shut up, and focus on *this* reality until the pipe dreams come to pass.

Edited 2012-08-09 03:02 UTC
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They certain are ambitious...
By Dr.Mabuse on 2012-08-09 02:59:09
...But I wonder where it will take them?

Meanwhile, Debian has just moved to XFCE for their default desktop:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php...

Edited 2012-08-09 02:59 UTC
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RE: Build it, and they will come
By Soulbender on 2012-08-09 03:59:27
> and now they want to venture into a whole "Gnome OS"

Maybe you should actually read the article.

> I don't want to fight my "desktop environment", I simply want to run a few damn applications, and get on with my work.

Funny, that's why I like Unity. It works and gets out of the way.
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One thing they should change
By Soulbender on 2012-08-09 04:04:30
Maybe they shouldn't call it "GNOME OS" since it seems people have a problem comprehending that this isn't NOT about creating a GNOME operating system.

Edited 2012-08-09 04:04 UTC
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great idea!
By pooo on 2012-08-09 05:19:48
To really fix gnome they should also focus hard on making gnome devices like laptops.

Actually the only smart thing to do is for everyone to focus on building a gnome car!! Yes with gnome integrated deeply. Yeah.

Don't bother fixing the 20 deal breaker bad UX decisions they've made because that certainly has nothing to do with gnome's crashing user base.

P.S. - Please don't reply with "well I like it". Good for you, really, good for you. I'm expressing my distaste and I know I don't talk for everyone but acknowledge the fact that gnome has in fact seen a mass exodus. So you might like it, but it is clear many (probably most) people do not like it at all.

Honestly for me the biggest deal breaker is their handling of multiple desktops and monitors. I'd venture to guess that most people who like it, simply don't use more than 1, maybe 2 desktops because the tablet focused desktop handling is just plain unusable if you regularly have many windows open and you want to keep them organized.

Edited 2012-08-09 05:31 UTC
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RE[2]: Build it, and they will come
By pooo on 2012-08-09 05:26:18
I would agree with your last point about unity except I keep having really irritating performance issues, occasional slowdowns and crashes.

This on both nvidia and ati with both proprietary and foss drivers.

Really sucks.

Also multi-monitor support pretty much sucks and it had just gotten decent with gnome2.
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RE[3]: Build it, and they will come
By Soulbender on 2012-08-09 05:55:27
> I would agree with your last point about unity except I keep having really irritating performance issues, occasional slowdowns and crashes.

I have an nvidia card using the foss drivers and I've never had such problems but YMMV.

> Also multi-monitor support pretty much sucks

I don't know what you dislike about the multi-monitor support, I find it good.
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RE[3]: Build it, and they will come - to a dead end.
By 1c3d0g on 2012-08-09 06:20:06
They've already forked GNOME 3, FYI, and it's called Cinnamon. MUCH more usable than anything coming out of GNOME these days.

http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
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moving ahead?
By stolennomenclature on 2012-08-09 06:36:24
In what sense is Gnome 3 "moving ahead"? Moving backwards or moving sideways i can understand, but ahead? How is taking functionality out and making the software less useful moving ahead? Or is the assumption that people are getting more and more stupid and need their software to be dumbed down to suit? Gnome 3 is the "sesame street" version of a Gnome. Good for kids, but what do adults do with it?
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Comment by ssokolow
By ssokolow on 2012-08-09 06:36:33
If you like GNOME, good for you. I was never comfortable with a desktop and apps that had fat widgets on all the themes I liked and forced UI behaviours I didn't want on me in the name of simple configuration dialogs.

That's the beauty of an open platform. You can use GNOME, while I run LXDE and wait to see if Trinity can pull off modernizing KDE 3 enough for me to mix it back into my daily life. (Konqueror WAS my desktop in KDE3 and, in KDE4 it just doesn't feel right somehow... not to mention apparently being unmaintained outside of fixes from the KHTML maintainers.)
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