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| Apple survey: people choose Android because of carrier, screen |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-08-14 22:17:47 |
| You wouldn't believe it, but something actually, truly interesting came out of the Apple vs. Samsung lawsuit yesterday. Apple had conducted a survey to find out why, exactly, consumers opted to go with Android instead of the iPhone. The results are fascinating - not only do they seem to invalidate Apple's claims, they provide an unusual insight into consumer behaviour. The gist? People choose Android not because it's an iPhone copy - they choose it because of Android's unique characteristics. |
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| That's still not the argument against what Apple says |
| By marcell on 2012-08-14 23:55:55 |
| What Apple tries to prove is that software (Android) + hardware (Samsung etc.) were copied after their innovations. And yes they (Google, Samsung etc.) built on top of that innovative Apple's stuff their integration with Internet services (where Apple never really played well). So Apple would probably try to say that people can not see what's copied but they just go after desires Apple (initially) made for them. I think that kind of argument is (still) the ultimate bullshit but that's how innovation today is defensed by innovators. |
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| RE[3]: Off Just a Little |
| By some1 on 2012-08-14 23:56:21 |
| He's not making a point. He's quoting the survey. |
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| RE: Why I chose Android... |
| By jigzat on 2012-08-15 00:04:00 |
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I don't think it has anything to do to being technical skilled or not, I'm a software engineer and I really don't want to bother hacking my phone I don't even use Cydia on my iPhone anymore. The other side of the story is that Samsung is pretty successful outside USA and I don't think all the gazillions of users are technical skilled. To be honest I don't think Samsung success is based on user's mislead although Apple has the right to protect it's IP. I remember the one-click purchase patent by Amazon, Apple had to license it. Google and Samsung are not better or worst, they are commercial companies and when you on top on the hill you won't let anyone else, be it Apple Microsoft or the Ex ONG Google. Is really easy to be the good guy when you are in front of someone meaner than you. |
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| Data |
| By jeffb on 2012-08-15 00:06:31 |
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Once Verizon got iPhone it moved to 54% of their smartphone sales. Android is #1 because of t-mobile, MVNO... on both AT&T and Verizon Apple is a majority. In terms of newest technology we can't be quite sure what that means but diversity works to the advantage of Android. |
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| RE: About Apple not being able to deliver |
| By darknexus on 2012-08-15 00:08:15 |
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> Samsung's Galaxy line would have been nothing on the market without the awareness brought on by the Apple suits. Samsung's biggest partner is Apple. Do the math. This is actually a rather interesting point. While I do not believe your conclusion that Apple and Samsung are pretending to hate one another with these legal filings only to be patting one another on the back in private (we're talking about tech companies, not our politicians), your point about public awareness is valid nevertheless. While I doubt it was Apple's intent to draw attention and promote Samsung's Galaxy line in a back-handed way, in some cases it has happened that way. It reminds me of many things in history, most notably whenever a government or religion attempts to put down a popular revolt. The more you revile it, the more you end up popularizing and promoting it at the same time. It seems we really are doomed to repeat history, although this time with tech companies and legal battles rather than soldiers and swords. Progress, I suppose. |
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| RE: Comment by Tony Swash |
| By jeffb on 2012-08-15 00:09:23 |
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Apple makes most of the money in PCs. A few years back when Apple was 8% of the PC market they made 90% of the profits. Today they are at 12%. Apple makes more money because Apple targets the profitable sector of the market. They have consistently chosen profits over market share but not so much that they've allowed their share to fall. Apple in the 1990s was even more greedy and allowed their share to fall. |
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| RE: Comment by ilovebeer |
| By JoeBuck on 2012-08-15 00:12:16 |
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Apple is trying to make a "trade dress" case that people were fooled into buying Samsung phones because they look so much like Apple phones that they didn't realize they were buying the knockoff. To counter such a case, it's entirely appropriate to ask only those who bought a Samsung phone why they did so. People aren't stupid. I respect Apple's design and engineering skills, but I don't buy their stuff because I don't want to live in a pretty jail. I can install apps on an Android phone or tablet that Apple would never allow in a million years, like SSHdroid (make your device into an SSH server and see the filesystem directly) just to give one example. |
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| RE: Data |
| By Splinter on 2012-08-15 01:19:21 |
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> Once Verizon got iPhone it moved to 54% of their smartphone sales. Android is #1 because of t-mobile, MVNO... on both AT&T and Verizon Apple is a majority. In terms of newest technology we can't be quite sure what that means but diversity works to the advantage of Android. This all goes to support Samsung in the case outlined. People can tell the difference between Samsung phones and tablets and Apples offerings. Given the choice people choose the one they want based on their preference. This is not an article about market share but why people choose the brand they do. |
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| Sad.... |
| By Casey99 on 2012-08-15 01:39:42 |
| There is no "wanted a non-Apple product" category. That would have been my #1 choice. |
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| RE: Comment by Tony Swash |
| By kwan_e on 2012-08-15 01:40:05 |
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> Why does Apple make so much more money than all the Android devices makers added together, especially given that the use of the almost useless but traditional metric of market share means one should expect to see Apple in commercial decline by now and Android device makers financially ascendant? Why have Android tablets failed so spectacularly? Why is the OS distribution and update mechanism in the Android ecosystem so obviously broken? Why, given the relative market shares, is the developer and app space in iOS so much richer, healthier and fuller than in the Android space? These are all tremendously interesting questions Why do you keep on asking loaded questions that presupposes the answers; the premises of which also beg the question? They are not tremendously interesting questions because the way you "ask" them don't even suggest they're intended as questions. Seriously, you sound like a communist propaganda machine: "Why is our Dear Leader so benevolent and wise?" "Why are the capitalists failing so hard that they have to send tribute to our Dear Leader under the guise of 'foreign aid'?" "How does our Dear Leader keep the people happy so that they don't want to run away?" "Why are our enemies so jealous they want to stop our testing of nuclear delivery systems that are more advanced than theirs?" These are similarly not interesting questions. |
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