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| Windows 8 RTM relased to MSDN; Evaluation version released |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-08-15 21:30:05 |
| Microsoft has made Windows 8's final release available to MSDN and TechNet subscribers, so if you are one of those - have fun. The 90-day trial has also been released, so us mere mortals can have a go at it as well. The evaluation version is Windows 8 Enterprise, so it contains a number of features regular users normally won't see. As far as I can tell - it's a bit unclear - the trial version cannot be upgraded to a final version a few months down the line. Happy testing! |
| What about the Task Manager :-) ? |
| By pysiak on 2012-08-17 12:10:29 |
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Well, one good thing can be said about Windows 8: Task Manager is the best task-manager-style-app I've ever seen or used on a PC: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wiki... Aside from that, the windows store might be a nice thing to publish and get apps, but it'll have it's own problems as android and appstore do... |
| RE[5]: Pass |
| By adricnet on 2012-08-17 14:07:17 |
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> but at least one is still confident in Apple not doing something stupid of merging the two operating systems into a single entity. Cross pollination yes, merging no. OT: I'm jealous of your confidence here. If I believed this I would have already bought a new MacBook (Pro) rather than struggling with finding another platform to move my daily use to when my iMac and old Macbook Pro finally give out in a few years.. While we're here if anyone at Apple would even say that they are going to preserve Macintosh it would help some. Or spin off the Mac BU, in my dreams... /OT Back on topic, I still plan to "upgrade" the Win7 on my touchscreen netbook (Lenovo Ideapad S10-3T (RIP)) to Win8 and see how it goes. I can always boot back over to Android if I have to long enough to reinstall. |
| RE[6]: Pass |
| By kaiwai on 2012-08-17 16:38:31 |
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> OT: I'm jealous of your confidence here. If I believed this I would have already bought a new MacBook (Pro) rather than struggling with finding another platform to move my daily use to when my iMac and old Macbook Pro finally give out in a few years.. While we're here if anyone at Apple would even say that they are going to preserve Macintosh it would help some. Or spin off the Mac BU, in my dreams... /OT Already addressed directly by Steve Jobs and Tim - both regarding touch interfaces on the desktop (Steve said no, it doesn't make sense - great for demonstrates but crap in real life) and then further expanded where each platform will retain their uniqueness due to the specific task they're designed to do based on the input equipment used (touch vs. mouse/touchpad and keyboard). The only people pushing this merging crap have been the likes of Peter Misek whose idiot customers pay for his 'wisdom' that is little more than pissing into a stream then basing ones investment strategy on the direction in which the said urine is dispersed in the water. Why anyone would listen to so-called 'analysts' for issues relating to technology is as stupid as going to a crystal ball gazer as to whether or not they should get their oil changed in their car - the top executives at Apple have been pretty candid about the direction, I'm more confident in listening to them over so-called speculators and analysts. Edited 2012-08-17 16:39 UTC |
| RE[4]: Pass |
| By kaiwai on 2012-08-17 16:52:30 |
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> I have been quick to disagree with you in the past but I also want to show I can be just as rapid in agreement. I also find it a pain in the wotsit that people vote one down instead of replying. I also don't get the hysteria. On the Windows 8 issue itself, I am genuinely undecided - but if what I have read on there being a $40 upgrade from Windows 7 Home Premium is true, why not just try it out? It's not much more than the money I have voluntarily donated to Linux Mint in the recent-ish past, so it seems pretty reasonable on the face of it. Keep posting, naysayers or no! Unfortunately what I've seen online has gone from people disliking some aspects of Windows 8 to the almost fever pitched hysteria by some whose reaction is as though someone had just punched their mother. It is great to have disagreements and dislikes but I think the position by some regarding Windows 8 has blown the problems way out of proportion to the point that I don't think many of these people have a clue on what they're actually raging about - that is, the ability to clearly articulate the problems in a reasonable adult way besides resorting to an online hissy fit. If I was a Windows user I really can't understand what the hatred is regarding consistency - I mean, if one has put up with 20 years of inconsistency why is there suddenly an expectation in 2012 that after 20 years of it that Microsoft is suddenly going to clean up their GUI and deliver something better? I guess where I stand as a Mac user I spoilt a bit when it comes to the GUI but if I were a Windows user I'd upgrade without too many reservations. |
| RE[4]: Pass |
| By kaiwai on 2012-08-17 16:58:22 |
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> You see, that's the problem: we are Windows users and this one seems to be a release targeted at Mac users & demographics, that's why we hate it so bad. :) Well I admit I am tempted but they would have to go along way before I even consider trading in my iMac and MacBook for a Lenovo Thinkpad and ThinkStation running Windows 8. Unfortunately for Microsoft half baked seems to be in their blood and I don't see it changing - where as Mac users will raise hell if an icon isn't perfectly alined where as in the Windows world it seems that users are happy to allow 20 years of crappy inconsistency be passed off as 'something to be addressed later' but 20 years later not only never actually addressed but amplified in some cases - open up several core GUI components such as the device manager, mouse control panel and Internet Explorer to see what I mean. |
| Not designed for desktops / laptops |
| By cmost on 2012-08-17 17:35:58 |
| After working with Windows 8 for a month or so, the bottom line for me is that Windows 8 is ill-suited to conventional desktops and laptops. While it might be great for touch capable tablets and net appliances (which I don't have broad experience with yet,) I truly believe the masses will find its interface befuddling and non-intuitive on the majority of PCs. Sorry Microsoft. I'm not sure why Microsoft thought that 17 years of Windows customers' familiarity with traditional WIMP / conventional desktop would just be easily tossed aside in favor of Metro (or whatever they're calling it these days.) My recommendation to folks who ask my advice will be to stick with Windows 7 and hope that Microsoft comes to its senses with Windows 9. |
| RE: linux instead anyone? |
| By tuma324 on 2012-08-17 17:45:24 |
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Why down-vote this person? Too many Winblows lovers here, isn't it? I agree with what you said, so I up-voted you. f--k Windows, Linux for life. Edited 2012-08-17 17:47 UTC |
| Good for who? |
| By brostenen on 2012-08-17 18:55:35 |
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Good for who? Well... Good for tablet owners/buyers. I will not run it on my laptop though. Only reason for me to buy a win8 tablet, is when vs2012 is out..... Why win8 first??? Why ohhh why? I want vs2012 NOW. |
| RE[2]: linux instead anyone? |
| By brostenen on 2012-08-17 18:59:57 |
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Yeahh.... Linux is great. For me, I use Visual Studio 2010 every day for my education needs. I could run linux and write php, sadly if I did, then there would be no help from my school at all... No support. As I said. Linux is great. Sadly there is no vs for linux. So I need to run win7. I use Win7, VS2010, SQL 2008r2 enterprise, photoshop cs4 and so on... So... Win8 is bad for my computer. I'll stick with Win7. |
| RE: Not designed for desktops / laptops |
| By brostenen on 2012-08-17 19:19:22 |
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True. Metro is suited for tablets. I want one of those microsoft tablets that they showed off... Anyway. Win8 SHOULD have had a feature, where it detects if the hardware is a computer or a tablet. If it's a laptop/desktop, then metro could be a type of app launcher, just like mediacenter is. If the hardware is a tablet, then the normal old fashioned desktop, should be beleted up on installation, leaving you with no way of running conventional software. Yes you would be stucked with metro apps only. Then again. Metro IS the desktop, that microsoft want's you to have on windows8. Again... It would be stupid to have a conventional gui, on a nokia lumia phone. Just look how it went with the older phone os's from ms. Allmost everyone bought nokia and sony ericsson..... Or something like that. Just not with Windows mobile os 6 and down. I just don't see, why they want us to have a sort of windows phone 7 experience, when we want to be productive. That's not going to work in some way or another. Just as if apple wanted osx to look and feel like a clone/mix/something ios look a like on a macbook or imac. |
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