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| Samsung effectively kills Tizen, Bada |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-08-22 19:54:46 |
| As Sammobile reports: "Samsung will not bring any kind of new Bada phones in the second half of 2012. Samsung's latest bada phones showed up last year at IFA 2011 in Berlin. Samsung showed the Wave3, Wave M and Wave Y, all those devices run on Bada version 2.0. The focus of Samsung in the second half of 2012 is fully on Windows Phone 8 and Android. Because the Windows Phone market is in the hands of Nokia they will try to get that share back. Samsung will also try to make their Android position better than before. Thanks to some new Galaxy products in the second half of 2012. Another sad thing is Samsung moved their first TIZEN OS devices to 2013. Samsung already gave away some developers devices with TIZEN 1.0. The only problem is the support from TIZEN itself." Tizen was a lost cause to begin with, and Bada, while actually pretty good, can easily be replaced by Android. As much as it sucks to lose two operating systems (don't kid yourselves - these are EOL messages), it makes sense from a business perspective. Next up: the TouchWiz team. |
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| RE: no surprise here |
| By Flatland_Spider on 2012-08-22 22:43:56 |
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> So now what are Intel gonna do? Cozy up with Google and focus on supporting x86 Android. |
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| Comment by darai |
| By Darai on 2012-08-22 23:40:25 |
| Well at least there's Mer, which I can see being more successful than Tizen to begin with. Since Nokia also got rid of Qt to a more able company, I think we'll see more developers supporting it as well as the power and speed that QML has to offer. |
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| RE: Comment by shmerl |
| By thesunnyk on 2012-08-23 00:13:38 |
| I liked Meego. Is Mer just Meego with a better governance model? Does anyone know? I'd love to use it in places a lot of people think of using Android. |
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| RE[2]: Comment by shmerl |
| By shmerl on 2012-08-23 02:24:01 |
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Yes Mer is a fork of the Meego project (partial since Meego was rather broad) with better governance model (meritocratcy). You can read about Mer's story here: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail... https://archive.fosdem.org/2012/i... https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/... Mer is a core distribution, providing a base for vendors and community distributions to create end user products. Mer based projects for example are Plasma Active (KDE's mobile targeted version currently focused on tablets) and Nemo Mobile (handset targeted distribution, inherited from Meego handset). Jolla is using Mer and components of Nemo to build their handset with their interface on top. Edited 2012-08-23 02:33 UTC |
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| RE[2]: no surprise here |
| By kwan_e on 2012-08-23 02:41:37 |
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> > But restarting time and time again, no that's not a receipe for success. Why not? They have huge resources and unlikely to run out of names. Maybe it's just that they're trying too hard. Maybe they should do the Google/Microsoft thing and just let their employees experiment with things to their heart's content, not concerned with failure since it doesn't cost as much. |
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| RE[2]: no surprise here |
| By 1c3d0g on 2012-08-23 04:53:04 |
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Now THERE'S an idea! :-D Seriously, every company trying to make their own silly little O.S...come on. It's much better to let the big boys at Google handle their established and already excellent Android O.S. and focus on making it work better on their hardware, instead of fighting a lost war. |
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| RE[3]: no surprise here |
| By swift11 on 2012-08-23 05:28:13 |
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After the Microsoft monopoly on the dektop, most companies don't want to repeat the same mistake with Google on mobile. The Facebook phone = FB UI + Tizen + HTC phone for instance. Other brands will follow the same model, almost like in the credit card biz. Edited 2012-08-23 05:29 UTC |
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| RE: idiotic |
| By cdude on 2012-08-23 05:38:28 |
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I found the conclusion drawn to be off too. MeeGo, BB10, Tizen, all the first devices with a brand new OS delayed. The first device gives the overall first impression of the whole platform. Press and people are going to judge the whole strategy based on the first device. So, it is important to make it decend, to improve and make the momentum when the first device hits market huge. Later on updates are more or less sideline news but the first device will be a frontpage news with deep and long reviews. Better delay and polish rather then hurry up and lose in the long run. For HTML5: That is really not the killer. This days all or at least most platforms support that. Even MeeGo N9 got a WebWidgets app that executes the latest, greatest HTML5 apps. WP8, Android Chrome and Opera all support that out of the box. There are reasons why there are so less HTML5 apps, why there are no complex larger HTML apps. Its horrible to develop, maintain and use. It will improve without question but native apps are not going away. A recent platform supports more thrn HTML5 only. Tizen was or is(?) at that point more then once. The EFL support was removed but Tizen 1.0 was shipping with Qt. I have hopes they integrate Android API too offering an to Android compatible stack plus Qt like Jolla and BB10 do. Edited 2012-08-23 05:41 UTC |
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| RE[2]: idiotic |
| By swift11 on 2012-08-23 05:59:51 |
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The Tizen roadmap is very simple: 1) the release of E17 http://e17releasemanager.wordpre... 2) the webruntime must be improved: http://html5test.com/results/mob... HTML5 without a browser is a real paradigm shift imo |
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| What a bunch of lies... |
| By przemo_li on 2012-08-23 06:00:26 |
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WINDOWS PHONE 7 DO NOT BRING PROFITS. BADA OS BRING SAMSUNG PROFITS. Now show me any sane CEO who would push for more WinP7 devices.... Also EVERY vendor report DECLINING WinP7 sales, and not without reason. WinP7 is OBSOLETE, as stated by MS, without any means of rescue. If samsung will push Windows Phone, it will only be Windows Phone **8** And even if that is true, there is no way in hell Samsung would sacrifice Bada! Not WinP8 nor Android would work on those feature phones. They have too low specs. And Bada OS have 8% in handsets sold by Samsung. Also Samsung already have 45% of Android market (1 in 2 Android sold handsets belong to Samsung!!!). So Samsung do not need to do anything more to win Android market, already they are doing fine. So Samsung also do not need to sacrifice Bada to win more Android market!!! But its not first lie about WinP7 we hear today. Localytics where before giving also gross lies about WinP7 grow and OEM engagement. BTW Did you know that Bada OS market share is EQUAL to WinP7 market share? So Samsung will lose 3% (profitable and with steady gorw), to gain 3% (not profitable and with decline in coming Q)? Ridiculous. |
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