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| Samsung effectively kills Tizen, Bada |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-08-22 19:54:46 |
| As Sammobile reports: "Samsung will not bring any kind of new Bada phones in the second half of 2012. Samsung's latest bada phones showed up last year at IFA 2011 in Berlin. Samsung showed the Wave3, Wave M and Wave Y, all those devices run on Bada version 2.0. The focus of Samsung in the second half of 2012 is fully on Windows Phone 8 and Android. Because the Windows Phone market is in the hands of Nokia they will try to get that share back. Samsung will also try to make their Android position better than before. Thanks to some new Galaxy products in the second half of 2012. Another sad thing is Samsung moved their first TIZEN OS devices to 2013. Samsung already gave away some developers devices with TIZEN 1.0. The only problem is the support from TIZEN itself." Tizen was a lost cause to begin with, and Bada, while actually pretty good, can easily be replaced by Android. As much as it sucks to lose two operating systems (don't kid yourselves - these are EOL messages), it makes sense from a business perspective. Next up: the TouchWiz team. |
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| RE: Where's the substance? |
| By swift11 on 2012-08-23 09:56:05 |
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> Some random site on the internet makes some claims, ergo it's true? I don't see any links to any credible source on that blog post. None. Nada. For all we know it could be made up. I guess in this brave new blogging world speculation rules the day and fact checking is for suckers. Agreed, this post is complete BS. I was shocked to read this on OS News btw |
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| I predict differently |
| By Carewolf on 2012-08-23 10:36:00 |
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I guess there is a chance Tizen will be killed, but I predict it is much less than 50%, so I will predict Tizen will be released in 2013, so let's see who will be right :) Anyway, there is a serious mistake in the story here. At the risk of sounding like a broken record: Tizen is Bada2!! So it is no surprise that they will stop making new Bada devices when Bada2 is just around the corner. I already suspected Tizen would be delayed, as a WebKit developer, it is easy to tell from the source-code that the EFL-port of WebKit is at least half a year from a releasable state, but both Intel and Samsung have been trying to hire QtẂebKit developers, which indicates they still focus on Tizen. Finally Samsung has a history of betting on every single horse. Right now they are making money on both Android and Bada, so I see no reason Samsung would turn away from their historic behaviour. They are just phasing out Bada to prepare for Bada2, aka. Tizen. Edited 2012-08-23 10:36 UTC |
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| RE: I predict differently |
| By swift11 on 2012-08-23 11:01:09 |
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yep, but Tizen is not Samsung: http://www.tizenassociation.org/... We'll have Tizen TVs (Panasonic), phones (Facebook phone, etc.), IVI (vehicles), many OEMs and operators. Time will tell. ;) |
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| RE[5]: no surprise here |
| By shmerl on 2012-08-23 15:30:49 |
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Meego wasn't a success in the end, since the project halted. Nokia never switched to Meego proper, being stuck in Harmattan and then just switched to Windows altogether. > Problem with Mer is not lack of Intel engagements but lack of OEMs. It's not a bigger problem for Mer than it was for Meego. How many Meego handsets or tablets came out (not counting N9)? Right - practically none. OEMs aren't running to write Linux drivers for their devices thanks to Android. As some phrased it - Android is the best friend and the worst enemy: http://lwn.net/Articles/504865/ So Mer is picking up where the Meego stopped, and is even in better position now than Meego was before. Edited 2012-08-23 15:31 UTC |
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| RE[6]: no surprise here |
| By przemo_li on 2012-08-23 20:04:51 |
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Nokia CEO was not succes. N9 was profitable and got better reviews than iPhone. N95 got DESIGN award over iPad2 in GB. If that is not definition of success than I do not know what success is... Nokia decision of halting MeeGo had noting to do with performance of MeeGo. In fact Nokia CEO publicly stated that such performance is irrelevant and that even with big success MeeGo will not be continued. Some analyst calculated that if N9 was backed by sane CEO, and sold in every major Nokia market than Nokia would be on + just from revenues of Nokia handsets unit. That is definition of cash success. Only failure of MeeGo is that it happened to be launched under CEO who wanted to gain market share for other company. And you can hardly blame MeeGo for Nokia shareholders decisions. |
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| RE[2]: What a bunch of lies... |
| By przemo_li on 2012-08-23 20:24:51 |
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Because of two facts: 1) Article state that Samsung wants to win back Nokia dominated market. Nokia own 0% of WinP8 market so article must by talking about WinP7 market. 2) Article state that Samsung wants to win WinP market in H2 of 2012, and WinP8 will be only available in Q4, so socope is too large for just WinP8. So in fact what I'm saying is that Samsung will ABANDON Windows Phone market till launch of Windows Phone 8, and then they still may be committed only partially. I'm saying that THERE IS NO MARKET TO WIN BACK and there will be no such thing for H2 of 2012. Also note that I did stated that Samsung may be focusing on WinP8 more than WinP7 but they will not pursue it full untill 2013 at best. That is my message. Samsung and WinP in __any__ version in 2012y? RIDICULOUS. |
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| RE: Where's the substance? |
| By przemo_li on 2012-08-23 20:28:23 |
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Samsung already sell WinP7 devices. Approximately 1 out of every 100 sold Samsung handset is powered by WinP7. While 8 others are powered by Bada OS... |
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| RE[4]: no surprise here |
| By Fergy on 2012-08-23 20:36:20 |
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> As much as I like Android, I surely don't want to have an Android only mobile ecosystem. If I had to choose between a world with iOS, Android and WinP or only Android I would choose Android only. Because Android is opensource and any company can run away with it. I can't see how you can get the situation you have now, with desktop pcs where MS has a monopoly ,with Android. |
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| RE[7]: no surprise here |
| By shmerl on 2012-08-23 21:30:48 |
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I'm not talking about Nokia, I'm talking about Meego project which was too dependent on Nokia. That spelled its doom the moment Nokia's mood changed. Being so dependent on an unreliable supporter can't be called success. Mer was created to address this problem. Edited 2012-08-23 21:33 UTC |
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| RE[3]: Comment by shmerl |
| By thesunnyk on 2012-08-24 04:57:59 |
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I'm still a little confused. Nemo is for handsets, built on Mer, and has a UI based on QT. Isn't Plasma Active also based on QT? And Jolla will build something based on QT and on a handset, but it won't be Nemo. Android does all three, so I know how to write an app for that. How exactly do I write a... Mer app? Nemo app? Are they all the same? Do they interoperate at all? All the docs seem to be aimed at people putting stuff on hardware, or people looking to contribute straight to one of the projects, and there's stuff for writing QT apps... but what do I do as a potential App writer? |
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