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| Apple vs. Samsung: inside a jury's nightmare |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-08-23 14:42:14 |
| Fantastic work by The Verge. "Although Apple and Samsung did their best to present high-level narratives about copying and product development throughout the trial, the jury's work is far more complicated than simply asking if Samsung copied Apple. Instead, the 20-page verdict form presents around 700 extremely specific questions, divided into 33 groups. These questions exhaustively cover everything at issue in the trial, down to exact dollar amounts Samsung might owe for each of 28 devices accused of copying Apple intellectual property." I don't know just how much power a US jury has, but if I were them, I'd buy a tl;dr stamp and use it on every page of the verdict form. Samsung and Apple ought to be ashamed of themselves. |
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| Comment by Radio |
| By Radio on 2012-08-23 16:06:06 |
| This is the trial of the decade... It is going to take them a decade to answer. |
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| why should Samsung be ashamed |
| By FunkyELF on 2012-08-23 18:12:44 |
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Jurors are citizens... dumb citizens with no knowledge of law or the technology being presented in this case. If there were only 3 or 4 questions maybe Samsung could get off scott free.... but when there are 700 you have to think that some will go one way and some will go the other. Samsung is defending themselves and they have to play Apple's game. You can't really take the higher ground when you're putting it all in the hands of jurors. If this were like the Oracle / Google case where a judge listened and ruled on the case then maybe they could take a high ground because the Judge would see through all of Apple's BS. |
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| RE: Comment by Radio |
| By Stephen! on 2012-08-23 18:32:07 |
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> This is the trial of the decade... It is going to take them a decade to answer. If nothing else, a good incentive for them to fix the patent system, unless they want be dealing with more of this sort of thing in the future. |
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| Comment by elektrik |
| By elektrik on 2012-08-23 19:01:58 |
| WHEW! My Jury summons is for NEXT Month! I'm glad I dodged that bullet (of being on the Apple/Samsung jury)!!!!!!! |
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| RE[2]: Comment by Radio |
| By Alfman on 2012-08-23 19:18:27 |
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Stephen!, "If nothing else, a good incentive for them to fix the patent system, unless they want be dealing with more of this sort of thing in the future." No argument here. It's a horrid mess. But did you read apple's closing statements? McElhinny - If you find Samsung infringed, "you will have reaffirmed the American patent system. You will have upended Samsung's cynical game plan." |
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| RE: Comment by elektrik |
| By _txf_ on 2012-08-23 20:06:44 |
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> WHEW! My Jury summons is for NEXT Month! I'm glad I dodged that bullet (of being on the Apple/Samsung jury)!!!!!!! You'd probably be excluded anyway. Legal teams from both sides removed Jurors with any technical knowledge... |
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| RE[2]: Comment by Radio |
| By darknexus on 2012-08-23 22:23:56 |
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> If nothing else, a good incentive for them to fix the patent system, unless they want be dealing with more of this sort of thing in the future. If only that were true. Thing is, the lawyers on both sides are making a killing on this sort of crap, and guess which people pull the strings in this country? In either case, the patent system can't be fixed now. It would have to be eliminated altogether and only then rebuilt (although I think patents are completely idiotic myself). |
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| RE[2]: Comment by elektrik |
| By darknexus on 2012-08-23 22:25:11 |
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> You'd probably be excluded anyway. Legal teams from both sides removed Jurors with any technical knowledge... Does anyone else who has actually read the U.S constitution realize just how ridiculous that is? |
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| RE[3]: Comment by Radio |
| By Delgarde on 2012-08-23 22:43:52 |
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> McElhinny - If you find Samsung infringed, "you will have reaffirmed the American patent system. You will have upended Samsung's cynical game plan." Yes, well... they *would* say that, wouldn't they? |
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| RE[3]: Comment by elektrik |
| By bhhenry on 2012-08-24 00:58:52 |
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> > You'd probably be excluded anyway. Legal teams from both sides removed Jurors with any technical knowledge... Does anyone else who has actually read the U.S constitution realize just how ridiculous that is? And what, exactly, does the Constitution have to do with it? |
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