| News | Features | Interviews |
| Blog | Contact | Editorials |
| Microsoft: Apple's victory good for Windows Phone |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-08-25 06:15:34 |
| Microsoft's response to Apple's win is probably the most cringeworthy of all. Blatantly admitting Windows Phone can't make a dent in the market on merit, but instead requires the court room to do so, Bill Cox, senior director of Windows Phone marketing communications, said: "Windows Phone is looking gooooood right now." Nauseating. |
|
| RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai |
| By kaiwai on 2012-08-25 12:39:37 |
|
> Apple has their own survey which says that isn't the case - people who have bought Android devices don't see any similarities nor did they buy it because they thought they were getting a cheaper iPhone. Handing a jury not knowledgeable about technology a set of very narrow questions where similarities were doctored in is not much of a victory, and this has no real chance of being upheld on appeal. True - having had a look further into the case it appears that large sways of evidence by Samsung have been thrown out by the judge such as evidence of prior art related to the particular patented technologies Apple claims Samsung infringed on. I think Apple is just pissed off that although the iPhone sparked off the consumer smart phone it appears that for many they're quite happy with what the others have to offer which offer similar functionality at a reasonable price (the price difference between SIII and iPhone 4S is minuscule). Maybe Apple needs to adopt the position that they took when it comes to the Mac - for Apple to succeed it doesn't mean that Android has to fail. Personally there is a tonne of room for growth so why Apple can't see this as an opportunity I'm befuddled. Maybe their overinflated share price is based on unrealistic expectations of Apple and the executive team see the law suit as the only way of ensuring that the share price remains where it is by securing future dominance. |
 - Score: 5 |
| RE: Innovation |
| By bowkota on 2012-08-25 13:48:48 |
| MS indeed implemented some nice and innovative ideas in their mobile OS but it's not enough. It's an incomplete package and Samsung has been much more successful with android and some solid phone development. |
| - Score: 2 |
| RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai |
| By Shadowmane on 2012-08-25 14:01:14 |
|
> No one cares who did it first but who delivered it in a way that is meaningful for the end user which in that regard Apple has done a good job. Apparently Apple cares, or they wouldn't have sued. No matter how you slice it, this is bad for business in the United States. This is why I don't use Apple or Microsoft products. They use their money and power to kill real innovation, then scoop up the innovators' ideas for a steal, then call it innovation... only they weren't the real innovators, just the pirate that came in and scooped up the treasure. |
| - Score: 5 |
| Comment by Stephen! |
| By Stephen! on 2012-08-25 14:04:45 |
|
"Bill Cox, senior director of Windows Phone marketing communications, said: "Windows Phone is looking gooooood right now" Well, aside from the fact that Nokia seems to be in financial decline and mobile versions of Windows have never really managed to gain significant market share in over a decade. |
| - Score: 5 |
| RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai |
| By Janvl on 2012-08-25 14:48:20 |
|
> taking an existing idea then transforming it from a concept into a real world product that is useful for a consumer You mean like a Galaxy note? Or a Galaxy S3 with jelly bean that can play flash? > to assume makes an ass of u and me I am dutch, accidentally living in austria, a "european" would fit best. |
| - Score: 1 |
| RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai |
| By some1 on 2012-08-25 15:10:00 |
|
> You mean how Samsung has been caught out with LCD price fixing, mobile price fixing, memory price fixing etc. etc. If you knew what price fixing is and what counts as price fixing from the legal point of view, you'd stop repeating this as a broken record. I bet you for *every* product where there are just a handful of suppliers you can find price fixing. > I'll bet my bottom dollar that if Apple offered Samsung $3 per device you would have seen Samsung leap at it And that is (surprise!) exactly how patents are supposed to work. |
| - Score: 2 |
| This is why |
| By Mellin on 2012-08-25 15:10:04 |
| This is why we should have no software patents in Europe! |
| - Score: 5 |
| RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai |
| By _txf_ on 2012-08-25 15:16:06 |
|
> With that being said, Microsoft is coming off looking like an angel when compared to Apple at this moment. One thing I will concede is someone noting that Apple when given the sort of power Microsoft has will be far worse - as seen so far things are moving in that direction. Where as Microsoft is happy to ask for $3 per unit we have Apple who effectively wants the vendor to shut down - $45-$50 is not realistic and pretty much demands that the business closes their doors. MS just comes off as rather slimy. Unlike apple, they sidle up to vendors and extort money out of them. MS doesn't have mobile success so they choose to get some money out of competitors as opposed to blocking them outright. I don't think either is correct. |
| - Score: 3 |
| RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai |
| By cdude on 2012-08-25 17:09:59 |
|
Your sidenote about Apple need to sue to compete, to not go down and lose, hits the nail. Apple is constantly losing market share against Android and they focus on patents rather then products to stop that. Sueing and turning your "coolness factor" down is not helping to prevent a future decline but its accelerating the downfall. Apple depends, like no other brand, on its reputation and public image. They are actively damaging that for a 1 billion $ peanut. Then Samsung just ships lesser rounded corners at black rectangle in the future and it will sell like before cause nobody buys there devices cause of the black rectangle corner-percentange. Edited 2012-08-25 17:18 UTC |
| - Score: 4 |
| RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai |
| By bfr99 on 2012-08-25 17:27:00 |
|
> Please learn how to read and understand. Apple is no innovator. Apple has always stolen the ideas of others and then did a very good marketing. Software patents are poison for progress and innovation. The verdict is an american one and americans tend to hold to american businesses. There is also a strong tendency to "buy" your (self)justice - (Microsoft and ISO). I consider this verdict a farce and a loss for the whole ICT-industry. It confirms the bad habit of suffocating other companies with "patents", that build on the same idea and try to improve it, the last being a basic aspect of the human civilisation. Jobs is dead, now let us wait for apple to die. What is the evidence that software patents stifle innovation? Is there less innovation in the US than countries that do not enforce software patents? Is there less innovation in US the since software patents were legalized? Why are there so many Silicon Valley venture capital firms is innovation is being stifled? If you really believe Apple is dying by all means short the stock. |
| - Score: 1 |
| News | Features | Interviews |
| Blog | Contact | Editorials |