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| Microsoft: Apple's victory good for Windows Phone |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-08-25 06:15:34 |
| Microsoft's response to Apple's win is probably the most cringeworthy of all. Blatantly admitting Windows Phone can't make a dent in the market on merit, but instead requires the court room to do so, Bill Cox, senior director of Windows Phone marketing communications, said: "Windows Phone is looking gooooood right now." Nauseating. |
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| RE: Windows Phone |
| By tanzam75 on 2012-08-25 23:49:25 |
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The verdict is good for Microsoft in the short-run. But in the long-run, Microsoft may well regret cheering on Apple's victory. In the short-run, OEMs have just been given another reason to consider Windows Phone. (Except for Motorola.) But Windows Phone is only sitting pretty because of the patent cross-licensing agreement with Apple. That agreement was signed back when Apple was a small fraction of its current size. Does Microsoft really expect Apple to renew the agreement on the same terms, once it expires? Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were known to have had a personal rapport that made up for a lot of bad blood between their companies. Bill Gates is still around, but Steve Jobs isn't. The next licensing agreement with Apple will be substantially less favorable to Microsoft. |
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| RE: This is why |
| By shmerl on 2012-08-26 01:10:29 |
| Not only in Europe - everywhere. |
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| RE[6]: Comment by kaiwai |
| By BallmerKnowsBest on 2012-08-26 14:21:08 |
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> Agree there too, that's why I don't use Windows. Now for fucks sake calm down and take a pill or something! Well it has been a few months since his last "waaaah, I'm leaving OSnews forever and I really mean it this time" rage-quit, so I guess he's overdue. |
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| RE[6]: Comment by kaiwai |
| By kaiwai on 2012-08-26 15:57:12 |
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> MS just comes off as rather slimy. Unlike apple, they sidle up to vendors and extort money out of them. MS doesn't have mobile success so they choose to get some money out of competitors as opposed to blocking them outright. I don't think either is correct. If these said companies knew that Microsoft had no leg to stand on do you really think they would licence it in the first place? the question isn't the outcome based on what we to occur but how it will turn out based on how the law is written today - in a perfect world the evidence for anything to be patented would be high, the patent office itself would be well funded and most important the 'common good' would trump business greed in cases of issues such as medication for treatable diseases but said treatment is too high due to price gouging. If Samsung and HTC had a leg to stand on they would never had agreed to the licence hence there must have been some validity in it hence on one hand we have Microsoft realise that making a few bucks by asking a reasonable amount is more productive than throwing an Apple of demanding sums that are so incredibly out of this world that it would be derelict of being a manager to simply roll over and accept it - maybe Samsung was hoping that maybe if they could punch some holes in the case that Apple would licence the technology at a more reasonable price. IMHO I would have preferred to see the judge tell Samsung and Apple that $5 per unit for an across the board licensing and leave it at that. Apple would get fair compensation and Samsung would make a reasonable return on their product sales. |
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| RE[7]: Comment by kaiwai |
| By kaiwai on 2012-08-26 16:00:02 |
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> Well it has been a few months since his last "waaaah, I'm leaving OSnews forever and I really mean it this time" rage-quit, so I guess he's overdue. Go f--k yourself mate - people like you are the reason for the problems in the world. I've been here for over 10 years, way before it was a registered site, way before Thom became the big cheese so lets cut the shit and stick to the facts - now piss off, make me a sandwich and fetch me a beer you worthless f--kwitt. Edited 2012-08-26 16:01 UTC |
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| RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai |
| By kaiwai on 2012-08-26 16:05:39 |
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> > Maybe Apple needs to adopt the position that they took when it comes to the Mac They are doing exactly what they did with Macs two decades ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App... Only they got smarter and are suing a non-US company now. Seriously, though, I very much agree with what you've said. What annoyed me about the whole Mac situation back then is the fact that they had A/UX, a UNIX based operating system that had they kept developing rather than than the 'classic Mac OS' along with periodical price cuts they would have maintained a reasonable marketshare. It seems that Apple has a habit of making stupid decisions then looking around for someone to blame for those miss steps just as Microsoft competitors whine about the dominance of Microsoft Office but what were they doing 20 years ago when the ground work to Microsoft Office was being laid? we had Wordstar and Wordperfect both dismissing Windows GUI as nothing more than a gimmick that wouldn't amount to anything - and here we are today seeing the consequences of stupid decisions made 20 years ago. Grrr, so frustrating to see history repeat over and over again. |
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| RE[2]: Windows Phone |
| By lucas_maximus on 2012-08-26 17:21:51 |
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Earth, Nintendo are going down the crapper and it is now Sony and Microsoft. Sorry Xbox has done really well in 2 generations against the most dominant force in computing console gaming, Sony. The PS1 and PS2 had a lot of fans that were converted to Xbox. |
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| What's "nauseating" is Thom's ridiculous |
| By MollyC on 2012-08-27 00:42:10 |
| spin on that quote. There were no "admissions" in that quote. What is this, Fox News? Russia Today? Microsoft seeing an potential advantage for them in the outcome of a courtcase they had nothing to do with doesn't merit the absurd spin this site is putting on it. |
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| RE[3]: Windows Phone |
| By Johann Chua on 2012-08-27 05:09:20 |
| The PS2 (yes, "two") still outsells the Xbox 360 in Japan. Doesn't sound like total domination to me. |
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| RE: Windows Phone |
| By Deviate_X on 2012-08-27 08:20:52 |
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> It is only fair that Microsoft should get its day in the sun. Unlike Google they went back to the drawing board and made something new. Good for Microsoft. I still hope they don't become dominant, though. They become complacent when they are dominant (see Windows, Office, Xbox). Microsoft is a long long way from being dominant, but i do hope we get some decent hardware as a result of OEMs seeing the need to work harder on wp7/8 and w8 |
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