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| Neil Armstrong passed away |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-08-25 19:40:26 |
| "Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon, died Saturday, weeks after heart surgery and days after his 82nd birthday on Aug. 5. Armstrong commanded the Apollo 11 spacecraft that landed on the moon on July 20, 1969, and he radioed back to Earth the historic news of 'one giant leap for mankind'. He spent nearly three hours walking on the moon with fellow astronaut Edwin 'Buzz' Aldrin." Our thoughts are with his family and friends. Such a great man. The world lost a true legendary hero today. This man will be an inspiration for generations to come. |
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| RE: What's all the fuss about |
| By kwan_e on 2012-08-26 07:40:01 |
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> He wasn't a hero What's your definition of hero? > and he was no greater than any of his numerous other colleagues waiting to take that seat. Here's a lesson in simple logic for you: The statement "Neil Armstrong is a hero" does not imply "Therefore he was greater than his colleagues". Your complaint is thus idiotic. > The true heroes and great men are the scientists and engineers working their ass off to get him (up) there; the ones who didn't receive any sort of praise or credit. They receive praise and credit ALL THE TIME. Neill is receiving praise and credit today especially is because HE DIED. When those scientists and engineers die, they too will get the praise and credit on that day. Recognizing someone on a special occasion does not result in a shortage of supply for the next praiseworthy person or act. There's an art to cynicism. You do not have it. |
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| RE: What's all the fuss about |
| By Sodki on 2012-08-26 07:56:07 |
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> He wasn't a hero and he was no greater than any of his numerous other colleagues waiting to take that seat. The true heroes and great men are the scientists and engineers working their ass off to get him (up) there; the ones who didn't receive any sort of praise or credit. Regarding the space pioneers, everyone is a hero, from the scientists and engineers to the navigators and astronauts. Everyone was important and everyone had to do their job, otherwise the mission would have failed and the astronauts would have been killed. A previous comment by tanzam75 showed just that: the scientists and engineers could not have done Neil's job (and vice-versa). Neil's colleagues are also heroes. This is not a zero sum game. |
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| RE[2]: What's all the fuss about |
| By bowkota on 2012-08-26 08:10:43 |
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> They receive praise and credit ALL THE TIME. Neill is receiving praise and credit today especially is because HE DIED. When those scientists and engineers die, they too will get the praise and credit on that day. Errr, I'm pretty sure many of the NASA engineers responsible for that mission have passed away since then. You are aware that such a project is supported by hundreds of engineers. I'm pretty sure that there haven't been any headlines for them. I understand the publicity; people want to celebrate this man's life because for some reason he was important to them. However I object to the over-exaggeration of his accomplishments and all the hero statements being thrown around. |
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| RE: What's all the fuss about |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-08-26 09:28:20 |
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Not sure I would like to be shot in to space using 1960's technology, walk around on the moon and then fly back. There are thousands of scientists for every astronaut, but many more astronauts died in accidents than scientists did. When a scientist makes an error he or she doesn't die, someone else does. |
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| RE: Comment by MOS6510 |
| By Laurence on 2012-08-26 10:14:51 |
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Very true. I know Dr Who is only make believe, but I'm reminded of a scene where the Doctor refers to the moon landings as the most watch piece of video footage ever; and I quite believe that to be the case. Regardless of age, gender, race or even personal interests: nearly every single person on the globe will have at some point seen Armstrong's iconic first steps. And with good reason too! I don't know if I'll ever live to see anything as pioneering nor extraordinary as Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin's lunar antics, but if -as a planet- we do take up manned space flight again, Armstrong will definitely an inspiration to everyone involved. RIP |
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| Comment by marcp |
| By marcp on 2012-08-26 10:17:02 |
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To possible non-believers who tend to claim that there were no man on the moon ... No matter what is the truth, mr Armstrong was a great astronaut or a great actor. Either way he was a great man :) |
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| RE[2]: What's all the fuss about |
| By kwan_e on 2012-08-26 11:00:26 |
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> When a scientist makes an error he or she doesn't die, someone else does. After the first few successful launches, the only errors that caused deaths were those of management. Records show that the scientists and engineers clearly warn of technical problems which management is recorded to have ignored, leading to deaths. Whatever one thinks of the state of US science, it is undeniable that NASA still has the best in the business and they are rarely wrong. |
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| RE: Comment by marcp |
| By kwan_e on 2012-08-26 11:10:21 |
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> To possible non-believers who tend to claim that there were no man on the moon ... No matter what is the truth, mr Armstrong was a great astronaut or a great actor. Either way he was a great man :) Buzz Aldrin will punch you in the face. ;) |
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| RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510 |
| By joekiser on 2012-08-26 13:48:20 |
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> Just think about it how insane money is. Money doesn't exist, we made it up and then we spend our lives acquiring it, Money is a measurement of scarcity of resources, and a way to reward effort. Its no small coincidence that the nation with the most money (the nation that was born on the idea that wealth is created, not a zero-sum game) is also the only nation that has put a man on the moon. > killing others for it The first man on the moon rose to his position by dropping bombs on Koreans as a 20 year old pilot. I'm not saying this detracts from his later accomplishments at all, only that the world isn't as cut-dry black and white, good and bad as you make it. |
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| RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510 |
| By wanker90210 on 2012-08-26 14:13:06 |
| And, possibly because of images of the Silence disrupting, humanity believes the first words on the moon was "a small step..." when they really were "I'm down the ladder now" |
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