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| Haiku's 64bit port progressing |
| By Thom Holwerda, submitted by fran on 2012-08-29 14:14:57 |
| Haiku's 64bit port is progressing nicely. "As you can see, this looks pretty much like a regular Haiku desktop. There's still a lot of things missing, though - not many apps or drivers yet. However, most things should be fairly simple to get working, typically just a few compilation fixes." |
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| Hope they can do something about security |
| By Gullible Jones on 2012-08-29 14:26:43 |
| Haiku is great, but a single-user OS is a security nightmare these days. I really hope the devs can get something going on the security front. |
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| RE: Hope they can do something about security |
| By znby on 2012-08-29 14:49:07 |
| I think it's is going to be added in R2. R1 is designed to backwards compatible with the last release of BeOS, and introducing multi user support would doubtlessly break a lot of stuff. |
| - Score: 3 |
| RE: Hope they can do something about security |
| By CavemanGR on 2012-08-29 15:11:31 |
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Security is a process. Has no architecture. Single user or maybe not, difference makes none. |
| - Score: 2 |
| RE: Hope they can do something about security |
| By jayrulez on 2012-08-29 15:35:45 |
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Could you please explain how a single user OS is a security nightmare these days? Edited 2012-08-29 15:36 UTC |
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| haiku |
| By cipri on 2012-08-29 16:49:02 |
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this is indeed an important step for haiku. And I couldnt imagine that it would come so soon. I guess next year on about the same time, haiku will finally enter the beta phase. |
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| RE[2]: Hope they can do something about security |
| By No it isnt on 2012-08-29 17:14:08 |
| Because if any user is root, then any user can give any other user access to everything on the system without as much as an exploit. Completely by accident. |
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| RE[2]: Hope they can do something about security |
| By aaronb on 2012-08-29 17:17:17 |
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It is the risks associated with running everything with the same privileges. And having no per user structure to keep files and preferences separate. I am really looking forwards to the next Haiku alpha / beta but compared other operating systems there are important missing features. |
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| RE[3]: Hope they can do something about security |
| By jayrulez on 2012-08-29 17:45:06 |
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The multi-user concept is not the only way to provide security. An operating system is not inherently insecure because it does not provide multi-user support. Here is an hypothetical operating system: It does not have a multi-user implementation. However, privileged operations can only be performed by passing security mechanisms like fingerprint or retina scans. Does that make it more insecure than a multi-user operating system? Multi-user systems have their own issues. Think privilege escalation, confused deputy problem etc... Computer security is a complex thing and there is no -one way- of dealing with it. |
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| RE[2]: Hope they can do something about security |
| By Andre on 2012-08-29 19:17:53 |
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Back in the days, PhosphorOS introduced basic multi user support. Also an (officially unreleased) ZETA 1.51 also supported multi-user support. I cannot recall experiencing incompatibilities with these implementations. Note: PhosphorOS' implementation was not really secure: hitting control-alt-delete, killing the login task, and then clicking restart desktop gave you a desktop as the default 'baron' user. But this was experimental, and besides, PhosphorOS was a BeOS distro, so based on closed source software. (I think it was Dan0 based) |
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| How will be 32bit programs supported on it? |
| By theuserbl on 2012-08-29 19:58:35 |
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How will be 32bit programs supported on it? Like on Windows and Linux with twice existing libaries (all in 32bit and 64bit)? x86-64bit-Linux have in /lib and /usr/lib the 32bit libaries and in /lib64 and /usr/lib64 the 64bit libraries. Binaries are in 32bit OR in 64bit in /bin and /usr/bin 64bit Windows doing it similar. In C:\Windows\System32 are 64bit libraries and programs. And in C:\Windows\SysWOW64 are the same libaries and programs in 32bit. Yes, there are also notepad.exe, calc.exe, etc twice. And for the installed programs existing different places, too. In "C:\Program Files" are the 64bit programs and in "C:\Program Files (x86)" are the 32bit programs. What will Haiku do? Will be 32bit programs on 64bit Haiku supported? If yes: Will be all libraries exiting twice? |
| - Score: 1 |
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