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| Chinese phone makers patents iPhone 5 design from leaks |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-09-07 15:46:45 |
| "Android fans, especially those of you who love your Samsung devices, might have something to cheer about today as it looks like Chinese phone maker GooPhone have already patented the design of the new iPhone 5 before Apple have had chance!" This is just... Wow. |
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| RE: Comment by MOS6510 |
| By Neolander on 2012-09-09 19:01:37 |
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I'm not sure. It is funny to see a serial rapist being sent in the hospital after being brutally kicked in the nuts with a baseball bat by an informed victim who could just have told the police about him, but that doesn't make such violent self-defense actions okay. Edited 2012-09-09 19:21 UTC |
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| RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510 |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-09-09 19:15:23 |
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I'm overly emphatic and I have a very well developed imagination. Please do not bring up examples involving nuts. The point is that a number of people claim to be against patents, but when their favorite company uses them we get all these work-arounds to make it okay. Defensive patents, pre-emtive strikes. Now it turns out that in the patent claiming chart of 2011 Samsung ranked #2, while Apple came in at 39. So when people accuse Apple of patenting EVERYTHING it seems 38 companies patented EVERYTHING and then some. If one is truly against (software) patents one should be against any use of them. But it turns out people aren't Ghandi's, they are only against them when they are used by Apple/Microsoft. Patent trolls get a pass and even a cheerful thumbs up when Apple is the intended target. And just think about it. Apple has the highest customer satisfaction, Microsoft and Nokia try to do something different. They are the evil ones. Samsung, which doesn't give a damn about customers, and patent trolls are cheered. |
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| RE[2]: That's the thing about MAD... |
| By bornagainenguin on 2012-09-09 21:20:38 |
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bfr99 replied... > Especially in a standoff like the patents have been in for decades. Things only work out so long as no one breaks the stalemate and everyone works together for their common good rather than start lobbing bombs and possibly losing everything. It wasn't the best situation but to a degree it was working. Companies working together for their common good is a nice definition of a trust, illegal under US law. Adam Smith pointed this out long ago. Errr... when I said these companies were working together for their common good, I meant agreeing to cross-license to avoid breaking the patent stalemate the way Apple is now, not price-fixing or cartel behavior. I was talking about agreeing to "work together" in the sense of I'll let you use my patent if you let me use yours. Which was the intention of the patent system as I understand it, to encourage use, not lock inventions up for decades so no one would use them! Of course no one really saw a situation coming where a company was willing to Kamikaze if it meant knocking out the competition.... --bornagainpenguin |
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| RE[3]: That's the thing about MAD... |
| By bornagainenguin on 2012-09-09 21:22:11 |
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bassbeast posted... > Nice to see I'm not the only one who thought that. When he said "working together" all i could think of was the DRAM and LCD price fixing...yeah large corps working together? NOT a good thing. Yeah, not what I meant there. Was talking about cross-licensing, not cartel behavior or price fixing. --bornagainpenguin |
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| RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510 |
| By kwan_e on 2012-09-10 01:58:32 |
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> The point is that a number of people claim to be against patents, but when their favorite company uses them we get all these work-arounds to make it okay. Defensive patents, pre-emtive strikes. It seems like you've just compared the numbers and not actually remember WHO are actually against patents, and WHO are cheering, and WHAT those cheerers are actually cheering for. Many kids don't consider bullying others. But bullies exist and if a bully gets their comeuppance by a bigger bully, those same kids will feel the bully deserved it, even if they won't take part in the bullying themselves. And they're not all part of the same set of people, yet you're treating them as the same set. Nice try at manufacturing a hypocrisy. I guess you're right: you do have a really good imagination. > If one is truly against (software) patents one should be against any use of them. But it turns out people aren't Ghandi's, they are only against them when they are used by Apple/Microsoft. Patent trolls get a pass and even a cheerful thumbs up when Apple is the intended target. Last I checked, the anti-patent crowd would wish this whole Apple/Samsung and Google/Oracle thing stopped RIGHT NOW. However, we're realistic and so a lawful, ethical and moral outcome is better than nothing. > And just think about it. Apple has the highest customer satisfaction, Microsoft and Nokia try to do something different. They are the evil ones. Samsung, which doesn't give a damn about customers, and patent trolls are cheered. What are we sinking to? A balance sheet of good deeds vs bad? Is "customer satisfaction" much more important than patent abuse, which has far reaching SOCIAL implications? This is the level we sink to. "It doesn't matter if we fuck up liberty for future generations, as long as customers get their shiny rounded rectangles!" Libertarians seem to fear government but it turns out the biggest enemy of freedom are those more concerned about their gadgets. |
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| RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510 |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-09-10 04:53:55 |
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I just think you should make up your mind, you can't be against (software) patents and cheer if they are used in a situation you do like. And don't forget it's a patent troll that announced it will: it hasn't done it. Yet people cheer as if it has already happened. This kind of proves these people aren't actually against patents, but just hate Apple and patents are just a way of labeling them evil. If you are not one of these people that there is no need to take any offense. |
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| RE[4]: That's the thing about MAD... |
| By bassbeast on 2012-09-10 23:24:31 |
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yeah cross licensing...which just like price fixing lets you lock new guys out of the market. Did you think about it before you posted? Would you care for an example? Loongson Dragon chip. Its a MIPS chip that has hardware accelerated X86 emulation, cool huh? Think about that for a second, battery life like ARM, yet the ability to run the X86 apps you need at 80% of native speed thanks to hardware X86 instructions. Problem is thanks to cross licensing only 3 companies on the planet are allowed to use those instructions, Intel, AMD, and Via. And the odds of YOU or Loongson getting a license? Try zip, zilch, nada. So you see the problem with cross licensing is it lets the big boys, who have enough patents in their warchests to make MAD a real possibility, cover their own behinds, while at the same time locking little start ups like Loongson from getting a foot in the door. |
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