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| Samsung derides Android's multitouch, Apple praises it |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-09-08 11:58:22 |
| "While Apple's technology is a 'very nice invention', the technique used in Android differs from the iOS solution, argued Bas Berghuis van Woortman, one of Samsung's lawyers. Because the Android based method is more hierarchical the system is more complex and therefore harder for developers to use, he said. [...] Apple disagrees. 'They suggest that they have a lesser solution, but that is simply not true', said Apple's lawyer Theo Blomme to judge Peter Blok, who presided over a team of three judges, in a response to Samsung's claim." I just wish these companies and their lawyers could see and hear themselves. If only for a few seconds. Not even Monty Python could write this. By the way, all these patents were already thrown out last year by the Dutch courts, but Apple started a 'bottom procedure', a more thorough handling of the case. Three expert IP judges preside, and due to the earlier ruling, Apple is fighting an uphill battle. |
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| RE[5]: The patent troll apple again |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-09-09 08:01:29 |
| http://www.patentlyapple.com/pat... |
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| RE[6]: The patent troll apple again |
| By WereCatf on 2012-09-09 08:55:05 |
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> http://www.patentlyapple.com/pat... Neither Apple nor Samsung should be allowed to patent that, there's simply absolutely NOTHING new or inventive in either patent application. Those things -- including the controls and all -- have been done already in the 80s. |
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| RE[7]: The patent troll apple again |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-09-09 09:06:39 |
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I agree, but that's a whole different subject. This is about Samsung yet again copying Apple stuff. It's becoming hard to sum up all the stuff they copied without leaving something out. Samsung copies Apple and sells a lot of stuff, Nokia (and RIM) doesn't copy and doesn't sell lots. This makes me wonder why people claim the Apple vs Samsung verdict is bad for customer choice and innovation. If companies kept on copying Apple we'd end up with iPhones and iPhone look-a-likes. Nokia, who does offer a good and different product, doesn't even get a chance to show its goods because everybody wants an iPhone or something that looks like it. |
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| RE[8]: The patent troll apple again |
| By WereCatf on 2012-09-09 09:11:16 |
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> This is about Samsung yet again copying Apple stuff. But as I said, that has been done already 30 years ago. How can it be copying Apple when Apple themselves aren't doing anything new either, and are in fact copying what's been done before? |
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| RE[9]: The patent troll apple again |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-09-09 09:20:09 |
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If I replace my house with a pyramid and a few months later my neighbor suddenly also lives in a pyramid then I'd conclude he copied me. Yes, pyramids have been around since aliens visited earth thousands of years ago, but really where did my neighbor get the idea from? Samsung copied Nokia, BlackBerry and now Apple. Each time the went for the company who was doing best. The recent court case revealed how they were going to make their current products look and behave more Apple like. The bright white earphones were a sign of an iPod in someone's pocket. Of all the colors and designs Samsung could have picked/copied they chose Apple's. If Nokia suddenly sells millions of phones in all kinds of colors you can bet we'll suddenly see Samsung phones in all kinds of colors. Well, let them, but don't claim Samsung innovates or offers customer choice. They offer copies, more of the same. |
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| RE[10]: The patent troll apple again |
| By WereCatf on 2012-09-09 09:30:39 |
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> If I replace my house with a pyramid and a few months later my neighbor suddenly also lives in a pyramid then I'd conclude he copied me. He'd be imitating you, yes, but that's not wrong. It just shows poor taste. > Well, let them, but don't claim Samsung innovates or offers customer choice. They offer copies, more of the same. http://www.samsung.com/uk/consum... http://www.samsung.com/uk/consum... Hmm. I see A LOT of stuff there that doesn't resemble anything by Apple. The fact that you are completely oblivious to all the products Samsung ships does not negate the fact that they exist. |
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| RE[6]: The patent troll apple again |
| By nej_simon on 2012-09-09 09:32:37 |
| So Samsung is copying Apple because they both have "volume up", "volume down" and "answer call" on the earphones remote control? That's a ridiculous claim. There are tons of earlier earphones with a similar design. What other buttons would you put on a earphones remote control? |
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| RE[11]: The patent troll apple again |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-09-09 10:00:15 |
| Then why copy Apple? My guess is that their Apple knock-offs sell much more than their Nokia ones. |
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| RE[8]: The patent troll apple again |
| By Thom_Holwerda on 2012-09-09 10:09:04 |
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> Nokia, who does offer a good and different product That's the problem here. The jury in the US ruled that Samsung phones with keyboards and phones with like 5 weirdly arranged buttons below the screen infringed iPhone *design* patents. If those phones infringe, then sure AS HELL Nokia's Lumias would have been found infringing as well, had they been part of the case. Many people seem to think this is only about the Galaxy Ace - it's not. A whole sew of CLEARLY different devices were found infringing on design patents, and arguing that's okay is arguing nobody should be allowed to compete with Apple at all. |
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| RE[12]: The patent troll apple again |
| By WereCatf on 2012-09-09 10:09:38 |
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> My guess is that their Apple knock-offs sell much more than their Nokia ones. That's hardly their fault. |
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