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'Rift' within Apple over skeuomorphism fetish
By Thom Holwerda on 2012-09-11 20:28:55
Ah, skeuomorphism - my favourite punching bag. Austin Carr has spoken to former Apple designers and people within the company, and they're all confirming there's a rift within Cupertino between people who want to move away from skeuomorphism, and people who want to retain it as much as possible, and even want to expand it. Since I've long hoped for Apple to ditch this "visual masturbation", as one former Apple designer calls it, I'm happy to learn not the entire company supports skeuomorphism.
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RE: Speaking of
By MOS6510 on 2012-09-12 07:27:59
This page convinced me, I'm all for skeuomorphism!
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RE: Does anyone know how ..
By Radio on 2012-09-12 07:31:42
Read the article.
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RE[2]: Does anyone know how ..
By siraf72 on 2012-09-12 08:03:19
You are absolutely right. I should have RTFA. I guess that answers my question.

Edited 2012-09-12 08:05 UTC
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Comment by marcp
By marcp on 2012-09-12 08:08:21
Skeumorphism sounds to me like

"we don't think you can grasp the concept of an icon. We will make it to resemble something you may know, like a notepad, or whatever"

or:

"this is a notepad. We drew a lot of unneeded stuff around it, like leather finishing and such, because we don't think you get what the file concept in OS is".

I don't like it, don't know about you. Anyways, Apple has already been through some problems with this type of stuff, because some of their icons and such are no longer recognizable by younger audience of users, like a "diskette", or an oldschool microphone, or a tape in "record" applications.

Now, this is hilarious!
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Perhaps for no good reason...
By Tuishimi on 2012-09-12 08:14:43
...I think it is pretty hideous. Ditch it. Just make the UI/apps consistent in appearance, not "realistic" or divergent.
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Much ado about nothing
By wocowboy on 2012-09-12 08:44:30
The author lost me at this line: "During my reporting for Fast Company's upcoming feature on design at Microsoft, set to go live this week as part of our October design issue, I spoke with a number of designers, Apple veterans, and industry insiders hostile towards Apple’s approach to software design."

The entire thesis of the article was against Apple's sense of design, since he only spoke to people that are "hostile". Based on this one statement, one has to assume he did not speak to anyone who supports this design method, or that there is no one who supports it, therefore the premise of a discussion fails.
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RE: I don't get it...
By _txf_ on 2012-09-12 08:54:37
> iCal is very easy to use and understand, I have 0 problems with it.

It works, Except for the fact that it doesn't even look like real leather.

It just looks like somebody took a Sh*t over the ui

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There's nothing wrong with skeu
By sbenitezb on 2012-09-12 13:02:26
Some people like it, some people don't. Nothing to see here.
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RE[2]: I don't get it...
By MOS6510 on 2012-09-12 13:32:23
I had to launch iCal to see what leather you were talking about.

Personally I don't care much for fake leather or skeuomorphism, partly because I don't even see it. My eyes and brain have adapted to only see and process what I need and ignore the rest, like skeuomorphism, ads or unimportant details.

This makes me wonder, if someone use iCal, I mean really use it and not just launch 'n' look, is this fake leather stuff really that eye catching and distracting? It's just a small bar with a few buttons, does this really sabotage your productivity?

Much more important, for me, is the menubar and it's always at the top and it's always pretty consistent in its layout. If this was molded in to some skeuomorphism that would be annoying, but it isn't.
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RE[3]: I don't get it...
By _txf_ on 2012-09-12 14:25:06
> This makes me wonder, if someone use iCal, I mean really use it and not just launch 'n' look, is this fake leather stuff really that eye catching and distracting? It's just a small bar with a few buttons, does this really sabotage your productivity?

In the grand scale it matters very little. But it is amazing that they took the time to uglify something that was perfectly usable and neutral before. It does boggle the mind that somebody at Apple compared the two and said "yes, I'll go with the turd, it looks better".

I replaced the graphical elements with fixed versions.There are colours that I like and perfectly neutral don't think anybody can claim that standard grey is ugly, but that brown probably isn't the favourite of many people. I've yet to talk to anybody prefers the faux leather to the old chrome.
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