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Intel's new Clover Trail chip will support Android, Linux
By Thom Holwerda, submitted by lemur2 on 2012-09-19 21:44:37
Clover Trail will get Linux and Android support after all. "Intel has plans for another version of this platform directed at Linux/Android; however we are not commenting on the platform specifics or market segments at this time. Stay tuned," Intel told ZDBet.
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Comment by Gusar
By Gusar on 2012-09-19 22:18:39
The GPU is PowerVR, no doubt the Linux driver will be as half-assed as the CedarView driver. So no thanks, I'll skip Clover Trail entirely.

I'm waiting for ValleyView: An out-of-order execution Atom CPU and an Ivy Bridge based GPU (gen7) which is all Intel's and as such will have a fully open-source driver. Now that's the stuff :)

Edited 2012-09-19 22:20 UTC
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"Another version" of this platform...
By Wodenhelm on 2012-09-20 05:29:03
Does that mean they still intend to lock out Linux off the main version, to prevent conversion?
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RE: Comment by Gusar
By moondevil on 2012-09-20 06:45:49
This is no different than most Android tablets and handsets.

In most of them the GPU and WiFi drivers are not open source.
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RE: "Another version" of this platform...
By bitwelder on 2012-09-20 06:51:14
To me, it sounds like they are throwing a bone at Linux/Android world, but just so Linuxers cannot cry foul.
In the meanwhile, they'll proceed doing bu$ine$$ with Microsoft.
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RE[2]: Comment by Gusar
By 0brad0 on 2012-09-20 06:53:31
> This is no different than most Android tablets and handsets.

In most of them the GPU and WiFi drivers are not open source.


It says Linux / Android. That's not the case for Linux.
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RE[2]: "Another version" of this platform...
By MOS6510 on 2012-09-20 07:04:26
I wonder why, why do they care what OS runs on their CPUs? The more that do the more that Intel sells.
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RE: "Another version" of this platform...
By lemur2 on 2012-09-20 08:06:30
> Does that mean they still intend to lock out Linux off the main version, to prevent conversion?

I would have thought it meant that Intel has plans to release another version of the Clover Trail platform with the same CPU but with an Intel GPU rather than a PowerVR GPU. Intel could then provide open source drivers for Linux (and hence Android) for such a variant.

This is just speculation on my part, however.

Edited 2012-09-20 08:07 UTC
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RE: Comment by Gusar
By fithisux on 2012-09-20 08:43:07
> The GPU is PowerVR, no doubt the Linux driver will be as half-assed as the CedarView driver. So no thanks, I'll skip Clover Trail entirely.

I'm waiting for ValleyView: An out-of-order execution Atom CPU and an Ivy Bridge based GPU (gen7) which is all Intel's and as such will have a fully open-source driver. Now that's the stuff :)


Agree.
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RE[3]: Comment by Gusar
By moondevil on 2012-09-20 09:30:54
Linux is just a kernel, which also happens to be used in Android.
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RE[2]: Comment by Gusar
By christian on 2012-09-20 10:05:35
> This is no different than most Android tablets and handsets.

In most of them the GPU and WiFi drivers are not open source.


The difference is that the GPU/WiFi BLOB used with other platforms on Android actually work. The PowerVR ones don't for most people.

There is nothing inherently technically wrong with BLOB based drivers. I have no problems using NVidia drivers, they work great, and they're well maintained with current kernel versions.

It's just Intel's PowerVR based GPUs are appallingly supported by Intel.
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