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| 'EU has Large-scale plans for surveillance of all communications' |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-09-24 17:19:21 |
| "A leaked document from the CleanIT project shows just how far internal discussions in that initiative have drifted away from its publicly stated aims, as well as the most fundamental legal rules that underpin European democracy and the rule of law. The European Commission-funded CleanIT project claims that it wants to fight terrorism through voluntary self-regulatory measures that defends the rule of law. The initial meetings of the initiative, with their directionless and ill-informed discussions about doing 'something' to solve unidentified online 'terrorist' problems were mainly attended by filtering companies, who saw an interesting business opportunity. Their work has paid off, with numerous proposals for filtering by companies and governments, proposals for liability in case sufficiently intrusive filtering is not used, and calls for increased funding by governments of new filtering technologies." I'll just leave a link here to one of the most popular OSNews articles of all time. |
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| Fascism returns!!! |
| By the_trapper on 2012-09-24 17:30:30 |
| I knew Europe could do a better job at Internet fascism than the USA. Way to go guys! |
 - Score: 7 |
| Who thought this would work?! |
| By Adurbe on 2012-09-24 17:36:54 |
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Based on the article this is supposed to be eu wide. The first problem they will run into is cultural differences. What isn't appropriate in one country is perfectly viable in another. A simple example of this is on Italian tv, shampoo adverts fairly often show some nipple of the woman showering, if you did that in the UK there would be an almost unlimited number of "strongly worded letters". I think that luckily this idea will be dead in the water well before it reaches a point of privacy invasion on the scale they appear to be discussing! |
| - Score: 4 |
| RE: Who thought this would work?! |
| By shmerl on 2012-09-24 18:06:50 |
| I wouldn't bet on it. When those shady companies smell money, they push for it, and unless the public will push back - politicians would just play along. |
| - Score: 5 |
| RE: Fascism returns!!! |
| By HangLoose on 2012-09-24 18:09:48 |
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While in EU this sort of things need to be done behind close doors not to anger the population, in USA everything is done in name of "freedom" and "liberty". Openly! And everyone applauds it because peopled dont want to be like the "socialists from Europe". Some of them: -NSA Call database and warrant less surveillance -USA Patriot/Homeland Security/etc Act -Indiscriminate use of NSLs -Plus the good old MPAA/RIAA/etc lobbying in congress. Having said that, I am NOT defending EU if this horrendous piece of legislation ever sees the light of day. But before it comes in effect it is one more "attempt" that should be blocked by our representatives. |
| - Score: 10 |
| In Other news |
| By shotsman on 2012-09-24 18:19:42 |
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ISP's are reporting a huge rise in double and triple encrypted VPN Traffic. The are also reporting use of HTTPS has now exceeded HTTP for webbrowsing. |
| - Score: 6 |
| Comment by Sodki |
| By Sodki on 2012-09-24 18:54:37 |
| IMHO, one of the biggest problem in the EU is the European Commision. The European Commission is not elected, it's nominated and usually likes to go to bed with the big industries, leaving the people's will behind. Then the European Parliament, which is elected, has to shoot their stupid policies down. I know I'm being a bit cynical, but this is how I feel. |
| - Score: 10 |
| RE: Comment by Sodki |
| By quackalist on 2012-09-24 20:02:48 |
| Hmm, true as far as it goes in that elected parliamentarians are a bit more semi-detached still...not that I hold out much hope against Corporatism here in Euroland or the Americas...we seem to be doomed and lovin' it, blind or somesuch. Doomed anyway. |
| - Score: 3 |
| Comment by Luminair |
| By Luminair on 2012-09-24 20:07:23 |
| the world is teetering on the edge of surveillance of all unencrypted communications. secretly this is probably already going on in many places, judging from the leaks we've read. but we'll pass this threshold at some point in the coming years, and encryption will be the only way for privacy. then the next step will be banning encryption -- all communication must make sense or be blocked. this is the day privacy dies. in 20 years? 10? |
| - Score: 3 |
| Somehow... |
| By Tuishimi on 2012-09-24 20:35:45 |
| ...this will all be blamed on the USA. |
| - Score: -5 |
| RE: Somehow... |
| By UglyKidBill on 2012-09-24 21:08:56 |
| Well, USA has built for itself a reputation of getting their noses into other countries' politics, it doesn't happen "just because". |
| - Score: 9 |
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