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Jolla: the market wants an alternative to iOS and Android
By Thom Holwerda on 2012-09-26 02:57:31
"Right now, the mobile wars have just two major combatants: Apple's iOS and Google's Android. Nokia could yet make Windows Phone a serious third player, but there are also a few more minor actors with the potential to disrupt the market. Jolla is the most mysterious of those players, which also include Firefox OS and Open WebOS. Jolla (a Finnish word for a small sailing boat) arose from the ashes of Nokia and Intel's MeeGo project, canned in favour of Microsoft's mobile OS. The Linux-based OS has not been shown off yet, but Jolla has already scored a deal with China's top phone distributor, DPhone. The first Jolla device is due later this year, so to find out more I spoke with the company's chief executive, ex-Nokian Jussi Hurmola." Please let Jolla succeed. Pretty please with sugar on top. The industry needs this. Please.
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Very much so
By 0brad0 on 2012-09-26 03:03:28
It'll be interesting to see what the OS is like compared to Maemo but I would be interested in this. iOS sucks and Android leaves a lot to be desired.
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RE: Very much so
By satsujinka on 2012-09-26 03:24:23
And that's just the interfaces... development for them isn't a whole lot of fun either (in part due to the limited language selection.)
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how do you get 2?
By zhulien on 2012-09-26 03:36:35
um, how do you get 2? they aren't the only mobile OSs - my main phone uses a different one by choice, I use an Android and an iPhone for non-phone uses.
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HTML5
By swift11 on 2012-09-26 04:53:50
"We would love HTML5 to succeed fast, because it would mean our MeeGo-based ecosystem would be compatible with everything out there. But, at the moment, I think there are interests against that. It would again take away the control point from the existing platforms if suddenly everything were compatible."

I don't understand the last sentence. Can someone explain this ?

Edited 2012-09-26 04:54 UTC
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The industry needs this?
By Lion on 2012-09-26 05:05:57
I genuinely don't see why the industry needs this? Please inform me?
iOS and Android have established sufficient foothold that neither one is going away in a hurry. The smartphone space has matured to a point where it's probably too late to gain a sizeable chunk of marketshare with a new platform.
The more platforms out there fighting over the scraps left by the market leaders, the less viable each new one becomes as a commercial proposition.
If phones (like PCs) allowed for movement between multiple OSes then I could see the point in things like this as at least a hobbyist effort, but in absence of that it strikes me as encouraging a duopoly rather than fighting one.
If I am wrong, or missing the point here, please show me why?

edit: what I think would be more useful to the industry would be an agreement on some kind of hardware standard by the smaller players, allowing people to play with the various alternatives.

Edited 2012-09-26 05:10 UTC
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RE: HTML5
By MOS6510 on 2012-09-26 05:39:31
Apps written in HTML5 would run on any phone. Now each phone needs apps specifically written for them.
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RE[2]: HTML5
By swift11 on 2012-09-26 06:21:04
Just an example: the Blackberry 10 browser has the best HTML5 score atm:
why would this "take away the control point from the platform" ?
http://html5test.com/results/mob...

For small players HTML5 is an opportunity, not a threat .

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RE[3]: HTML5
By MOS6510 on 2012-09-26 06:25:14
My guess would be that native (so non-HTML5) apps need to be approved by their app store operators. Thus HTML5 apps can be distributed and run on any device without anyone stopping you.

Then again I doubt they'll be as good as native ones.

The problem with something like "Jolla" that it won't have many apps, most people use iOS or Android based devices. So they need to have a system where a programmer doesn't spends his time on an app that runs on only 0.01% of the devices, but runs on 95% of them including Jolla ones.
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RE: HTML5
By Radio on 2012-09-26 06:30:06
It means there would be no vendor lock-in (tying customers to a platform), and no marketplace cut (anybody would be able to bypass app stores).
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RE: The industry needs this?
By spiderman on 2012-09-26 06:55:12
The smartphone market is not mature at all. Current phones are crap. The phones companies iterate their model lines every 3 months. People replace their phone every year to get the next one. Phones from 3 month ago are obsolete. The phone market has been very competitive in the last 15 years and still is. Current top sellers are not guaranteed to be the next one. Today it seems that nothing can stop Samsung and yesterday it seemed that Nokia was an unstopable train and previously Erikson, Sagem, Alcatel, etc... In 1 to 2 years all current phones will be completely obsolete and you don't know which company will be at the top. You can't imagine what phones will look like in 3 years but you will laugh at what you considered to be a good phone today.

Edited 2012-09-26 07:03 UTC
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