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| Review: Windows 8 RTM |
| By Thom Holwerda, submitted by Bob Stein on 2012-09-26 20:16:43 |
| ActiveWin.com has just posted their 45-page, 40-screenshot review of Microsoft Windows 8. The review covers many different aspects of the OS including performance, security, application compatibility, and more. "Is Windows 8 a hit or miss? It's a hit, it is clearly Microsoft's most bold development in years, it probably beats out the transition from Program Manager (Windows 3X) to Windows 95, the move from Windows 9x to the NT Kernel. The Windows 8 platform represents so many things: truly touch centric, support for modern processor architectures, fast and fluid as Microsoft puts it and also represents where the majority of the world is heading when it comes to computing, entirely mobile." |
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| RE: No thanks... |
| By lucas_maximus on 2012-09-27 17:40:33 |
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> Of course I shouldn't even be commenting as I switched to Linux for all my own computers when Windows XP debuted with activation. Yes because Activation is such a terrible thing.</sarcasm> Anyway everyone was pirating Windows at the time, f--king everyone. Blame all the pirates for things like DRM and Activation and what not. Edited 2012-09-27 17:40 UTC |
 - Score: 2 |
| RE: If an email client doesn't support IMAP... |
| By lucas_maximus on 2012-09-27 19:09:24 |
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Dunno where you get that idea from. Usual unimaginative bullshit, "it isn't hardcore or complicated therefore nothing of worth can be created with the Metro interface". People like lack the imagination and the ability to create content. |
| - Score: 2 |
| RE: Touch on a desktop machine just doesn't work |
| By lucas_maximus on 2012-09-27 19:11:15 |
| You know if the touch screen was like horizontal, like a writing pad ... doesn't matter what size it is your arms wouldn't get tired. The size of the screen isn't a problem, it is the orientation. |
| - Score: 2 |
| RE[4]: Comment by Gusar |
| By ze_jerkface on 2012-09-27 19:12:13 |
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> Neatly organised my arse. Lots of tiny little icons I have to try to spot (btw I have 20/20 vision) Metro removes the program hierarchy along with my own changes and dumps everything onto a single screen, including crap I never use. > I rarely access the start-menu as is without typing in the search box, so the new metro mode is no different than how it currently works, it is just DISPLAYED differently. Using a keyboard it is faster than the old start menu, one less click on the search box. If you are calling yourself and dev and not using the keyboard to search for stuff in the start menu, just do me a favour and make sure I don't have to work with any of your code. If my hand is already on the mouse then it's an extra movement to use the keyboard. What am I supposed to do if my left hand contains a phone? Probably didn't think of that, now did you? My start menu also contains shortcuts that have different parameters since I run the same programs on multiple servers with multiple access levels. Probably didn't think of that either, now did you? Like Sinofsky you arrogantly assume that everyone has the same workflow as you. I can point out in very precise terms how Windows 8 slows me down compared to the start menu. It isn't the same and I and dozens of others have pointed this out on the Windows 8 blog. Sinofsky has buried his head in the sand as a result and you probably will too. To say that "real devs use the start menu to search" is a joke. I have moderately accessed Excel files in my start menu and if I searched for them I would get about 100 that I don't need that have the same prefix. But you probably didn't think of that, now did you? > Err because pinning regularly used app is how it supposed work. Err I regularly use over 20 applications. Why should I clutter my taskbar with them? Some of them have the same icon but again thanks for arrogantly assuming you understand my workflow. > EDIT: Lets also forget all the dual screen improvements that have been put in. There are no improvements if you use two screens for two Win32 or .NET applications. |
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| RE[2]: Well... |
| By ze_jerkface on 2012-09-27 19:29:44 |
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Fair point but I could see some switching out of spite. It's the people on the fence that Windows 8 will push over to the Mac. I could also expect some new server rollouts going to Linux over this. Word on the street is that CIOs are pissed over Windows 8 since Microsoft hasn't explained how user training costs will be offset (answer: they won't be, this is a dumb plan to take on the iPad). Treating high value customers with disdain is a poor business strategy. A single CIO usually gets the final say in an internal MS vs Open Source debate. Oh and on top of it all Server 2012 has that same metro screen that polls have shown that people don't want. I have no doubt that Linux will pick up some extra web server and intranet portal installations over this. |
| - Score: 1 |
| RE[5]: Hmmm |
| By lucas_maximus on 2012-09-27 19:31:21 |
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> Actually, as much as the concept of a stable driver ABI is lovable in theory, Windows does not really have it anymore. As an example, Microsoft switched GPU drivers API ABI from XP to Vista, added new features that required new drivers to be supported in Win7, and now they are breaking it once more just for the fun of it with Windows 8. Goes to show that in the realm of hardware support, manufacturer cooperation is much more important than technical merits. Are you f--king serious? There is a big difference between totally different version of the OS and breaking ABI/API compatibility within the same version of the distro. The same driver written in 2001 for XP will work with XP SP3 EOL. Same goes for Vista, 7 and 8. Sorry it is not comparable. Edited 2012-09-27 19:32 UTC |
| - Score: 3 |
| RE: Uhm |
| By ze_jerkface on 2012-09-27 19:43:53 |
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That will be the response of corporate America. But Microsoft can make up those lost billions, all they have to do is sell Windows 8 tablets to Microsoft hating Apple fans who already own iPads. WINDOWS 8 AND RON PAUL IN 2012 IGNORE THE POLLS, DELUDED FANBOY EMOTIONS CAN OVERCOME ANYTHING |
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| RE[2]: If an email client doesn't support IMAP... |
| By ze_jerkface on 2012-09-27 19:54:14 |
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Wow you can't even take a joke. Are you and Nelson going to troll financial blogs when MSFT is sold off after Wall St. decides that the "UI convergence" plan is a total failure? 10/10 ANGRY FANBOYS AGREE THAT $LATEST_PRODUCT HAS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT AND THE PROBLEM IS YOU. Edited 2012-09-27 19:55 UTC |
| - Score: 1 |
| RE[5]: Comment by Gusar |
| By lucas_maximus on 2012-09-27 19:56:54 |
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> Metro removes the program hierarchy along with my own changes and dumps everything onto a single screen, including crap I never use. Then you can remove it from the start screen. NEXT! > If my hand is already on the mouse then it's an extra movement to use the keyboard. What am I supposed to do if my left hand contains a phone? Probably didn't think of that, now did you? Because moving your hand to the keyboard is soooo problematic </sarcasm>. If you are needing to use the phone and the computer at the same time you should be equipped with the headset. If you aren't using it that regularly, I doubt you are seriously using the computer since humans are not capable of proper multitasking (there has been significant research into this). > My start menu also contains shortcuts that have different parameters since I run the same programs on multiple servers with multiple access levels. Probably didn't think of that either, now did you? Like Sinofsky you arrogantly assume that everyone has the same workflow as you. I can point out in very precise terms how Windows 8 slows me down compared to the start menu. It isn't the same and I and dozens of others have pointed this out on the Windows 8 blog. Sinofsky has buried his head in the sand as a result and you probably will too. So you have some very, very specific requirements and your own made up shortcuts and a very particular workflow. Sorry, how the f--k are they supposed to optimize the OS for that? It is for you only, you made your workflow up and basically used hacks that was available in the design. If you want an OS that lets you do that shit, you should be using unix. Sorry, in one thread here you say "they didn't actually do any research", when you are called out on how something is supposed to be used ... you say your work flow is sooo f--king custom, that it needs the purity of the Win 7 interface. Sort your arguments and position out please. > Err I regularly use over 20 applications. Why should I clutter my taskbar with them? Some of them have the same icon but again thanks for arrogantly assuming you understand my workflow. Firstly, it f--king easy to put 20 apps on there (you can even make it double height), secondly you can actually set an icon yourself for your own shortcuts. As your workflow is sooo f--king unique as you keep on pointing out, I think you could manage to make another .ico file. > There are no improvements if you use two screens for two Win32 or .NET applications. False. It on the windows blog, and it pretty evident if you ... I dunno actually used it. ** ------------------ ** Basically much of your ranting comes down to "wah wah" it isn't exactly like Windows 7 and it doesn't exactly fit your very custom (probably fictional) work flow. Lets face it, your complaints are basically, I can't do what I did before exactly the same, even though there are some perfectly valid alternatives. So far from what I have gleaned you are probably one of those people that like to spend all day preparing to do work rather than actually doing it. Edited 2012-09-27 19:57 UTC |
| - Score: 2 |
| RE[3]: If an email client doesn't support IMAP... |
| By lucas_maximus on 2012-09-27 20:42:35 |
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> Wow you can't even take a joke. The joke wasn't aimed at me, so I didn't have to take anything. It was a joke yes, but it was pretty lame ... so I ridiculed it. |
| - Score: 2 |
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