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| Linus Torvalds goes off on Linux and Git |
| By Thom Holwerda, submitted by MOS6510 on 2012-09-27 18:44:53 |
| "I was in a coffee shop in Portland, Oregon and happened to spot Linus Torvalds sitting alone at a window table. I asked the creator of the Linux operating system and the Git source code control system if I could join him. Over the next fifteen minutes we talked about programming and programmers." Editor's Note: We've realized it's unclear whether this is a satirical interview or not. We don't know, so YMMV. |
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| Comment by lucas_maximus |
| By lucas_maximus on 2012-09-27 20:55:25 |
| Sorry is this what goes around as jokes these days? |
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| RE[2]: What is the point... |
| By PieterGen on 2012-09-27 21:47:34 |
| "as if something like Archlinux doesn't keep the indie cred of anything you have to install through the command line" Oh please, give me a break...It has nothing to do with "indy cred", but it's all about learning your system from the ground up and not taking anything for granted. Completely anti-hipster, actually |
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| RE[4]: What is the point... |
| By ebasconp on 2012-09-27 22:23:49 |
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Actually I DO prefer THIS Linus to the real one. This Linus missed all the arrogance, all bashing to C++, Gnome, and all projects/companies/people that think different than him; and this Linus has a lot of injected humility that I really like. |
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| RE[5]: What is the point... |
| By tuma324 on 2012-09-27 23:27:20 |
| nobody cares, fuck off now. |
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| RE: Twitter |
| By BeamishBoy on 2012-09-27 23:42:47 |
| Just out of interest, would the person who downvoted this comment care to mention why they did so? |
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| He's fed up... |
| By Jason Bourne on 2012-09-27 23:48:50 |
| Some pretty strong comments on Linux by himself. But what I really missed was the usual GNOME dead right 'kick-in-the-butt' rethoric! |
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| RE[5]: What is the point... |
| By tylerdurden on 2012-09-27 23:53:05 |
| You seem to be defining "Arrogance" in terms of other people daring to have a different opinion than yours. If such is the case, then perhaps you may be telling us more about yourself, via projection, than Torvalds's supposed character flaws. |
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| RE[6]: What is the point... |
| By ebasconp on 2012-09-28 00:25:08 |
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Actually I respect his technical achievements a lot (I would have to be a fool to ignore them); I also respect people that thinks different to other people and respect good arguments and discussions (here in OSnews, the good quality level of discussions is amazingly good). But after reading several comments and quotes that Linus says about technology he does not like; the "arrogant" word is the only one that comes to my mind. Do you like comments like this one: http://harmful.cat-v.org/softwar... ? He blames C++ because he thinks it is horrible, no providing any technical detail. Ok, Linux is nice, is written in C; but a lot of beautiful and huge software is written in C++ (e.g. KDE) and the developers of such software deserve a lot of respect and admiration. Or this one: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/u... where Linux bashes Gnome in an aggresive way? He can dislike anything, but being unrespectful takes a lot of respect towards him away. Edited 2012-09-28 00:28 UTC |
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| RE[3]: What is the point... |
| By Morgan on 2012-09-28 00:37:08 |
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Nope. It used to be about learning your system and having complete control over your OS. Now, it's about the Arch admins stroking their OS-penises and measuring them against each other, and newcomers are turned away with a "take your ball and find another playground" attitude. Very hipsterish, if you ask me. If you don't believe me, look into the furor on the forums over the last couple of months regarding highly aggressive, system-breaking core changes with very little notice or resolution. Various Arch admins have been quoted as saying they hate the idea of anyone new using Arch, that they want the distro to fall into obscurity so they will be "left alone by all the noobs", and that they are making the aggressive changes to purposely turn away anyone new to the project. And yes, I know the majority of the Arch community is not like that. It's a core group of admins who are trying to close up the project and turn their backs on the community at large. I wish they would just fork off and leave it in more sane hands. |
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| RE[7]: What is the point... |
| By ze_jerkface on 2012-09-28 00:38:37 |
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> He blames C++ because he thinks it is horrible, no providing any technical detail. He hasn't fully explained his kernel abi position either. Yes he calls it "non-sense" but both Windows and OSX have one and don't suffer any performance benefits because of it. Someone should ask him how a 3 year abi would slow down Linux. Like have him specifically point to a period in time where it would have caused problems. Or ask him if in-tree drivers are ever broken. Everyone who interviews him gets a geek crush and throws him softballs. Everyone has their faults and Linus can be pigheaded. |
| - Score: 1 |
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