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| Solaris 11.1 released |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-10-04 21:30:36 |
| "Oracle today announced Oracle Solaris 11.1, delivering over 300 new performance and feature enhancements to the Oracle Solaris 11 product family." This stuff goes way over my head. |
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| Not Over Your Head Thom |
| By hoak on 2012-10-04 22:00:30 |
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Honestly Thom, I've been reading your articles here since you've started so I think I have a fair sense of your depth of knowledge of OS internals -- there's very little in the way of Oracle's press release that goes over your head; most of it is just Oracle tradmarked jargon and product branding. Spend 45 minutes with Wikipedia and you'll understand more in that press release then they guy that wrote it. =O) Edited 2012-10-04 22:02 UTC |
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| 300 enhancements ? |
| By cobbaut on 2012-10-04 23:59:45 |
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I have an adequate knowledge of Solaris 9 and 10, and struggled a while with Solaris 11 before abandoning it completely. Call me sceptic, but is there a link to those 300 enhancements ? Not blah-blah-17%-cloud-per formance-gain, but the detailed technical list. |
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| RE: 300 enhancements ? |
| By some1 on 2012-10-05 01:13:19 |
| That number just refers to the number of items closed in their issue tracker. This is the industry standard absolutely useless number. |
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| Solaris 11 = Best Enterprise OS Ever. |
| By sergio on 2012-10-05 05:36:44 |
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I've been working with Solaris 11 for SPARC last months and I really like it. Much more user friendly than 10 for people with Linux background... GNU toolchain works by default, bash is the default shell and the new command line utilities are nice. Cool. The only drawback is SPARC support, you need a sun4v to use it (or x86-64)... 'cause Oracle dropped support for every previous SPARC system even the IV+ ones! It's a shame... but hey, We know Oracle, they're a bunch of blood suckers and they're proud of it. BTW I think Solaris is the best and more modern enterprise Unix out there by a large margin, it's stable, it's easy to use and It adds cool and useful features every release. And the funny thing is, If Oracle integrates ZFS into Oracle Enterprise Linux they will have the best enterprise Unix and the best enterprise Linux too! Oracle the best *nix vendor in the world!! OMG!!! xD |
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| Comment by Luminair |
| By Luminair on 2012-10-05 06:09:17 |
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solaris is so good it is an absolute tragedy that it also sucks. thom, all you need to know is that the meager changes in solaris 11.1 are closer to being stripped from its bones by the FOSS community to give illumos a bit of extra juice like in "the mummy" when the guy who looks kind of like billy zane but isnt eats the people who woke him up. arnold vosloo gonna fk oracle up. that's what you need to know. |
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| RE: Solaris 11 = Best Enterprise OS Ever. |
| By moondevil on 2012-10-05 06:33:42 |
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I still remember the days with Solaris 2.4, where my first configuration step was to install all the available GNU tools from Sunfreeware. Otherwise I would be stuck in the 70's, System V style. Still it is good to know about the new version. Many of our customers only care about commercial UNIX systems for the critical parts their infrastructure. There is plenty of money to be made in projects with Tru64, HP-UX, Solaris and Aix. |
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| RE: Comment by Luminair |
| By moondevil on 2012-10-05 06:37:44 |
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> solaris is so good it is an absolute tragedy that it also sucks. Most commercial UNIX systems suck, if you compare them with Linux and BSD. At least in user friendliness. When installed out of the box, most still seem to live in the 70's, early 80's. Still, they are quite robust, and they even offer stable APIs! |
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| Stanislaw Lem |
| By Gestahlt on 2012-10-05 08:36:28 |
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That news means more work for me. I do Solaris deployments on a daily basis. Its basically my bread and butter. I think Solaris 11 is just the SRU 10.5 now to 11 and integrated but i havent seen any changes in the ISO files so it might be not yet released. As for the OS itself.. i hated it at first but got to like it. The good stuff (Network bonding, ZFS, COMSTAR) is the most easiest thing to do. A few things like ipadm and such were a bit hard to get used to, but all in all its a very good unix. 11 is quite a improvement over 10 and since i only work with the newest Oracle / SUN Hardware i couldnt care less about the dropped support and seriously: About time you drop all the bloated legacy hacks and start somewhere from scratch. Linux did the same with my beloved Hardware (Like the fritz card b1 and its hard to get it working in any recent kernel). Oh BTW, if you want a nice alternative to Fishworks (Basically a GUI to ZFS NAS based on Solaris) you might want to try Napp-it. It works also with SPARC. |
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| RE[2]: Solaris 11 = Best Enterprise OS Ever. |
| By Laurence on 2012-10-05 08:47:51 |
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I'm just glad that Oracle are pushing Solaris. Then they took over Sun, I had a horrible feeling that Solaris would be left to rot in favour of Oracle Linux. Thankfully I was wrong |
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| lets stop talking about performance and stability |
| By project_2501 on 2012-10-05 10:09:51 |
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Let's stop talking about "stability", "scalability" and "performance" in vague terms. That's what the salespeople do. In 2012, what do we mean exactly by "performance", "stability" and "scalability". In what way is it better or worse than, say, Linux or Windows? Performance - let's start grounding it - do we mean disk performance? Do we mean network throughput? Latency? Do we mean performance of the core maths libraries? Scalability - again - do we mean ability to scale with larger memory? Concurrent threads or apps hitting the network io? Memory manager and task scheduler coping with growing number of processes? Threads? Stability - this is a funny one. I've never seen a good definition when people enthuse about their favourite OS' stability. Do they mean uptime left on its own? Do they mean not losing data when hit by a web-request storm? Do they mean ability to keep lots of processes happy and not kill them when memory is starved? Do they mean that the level of bugs is low - so things don't crash or restart or just not work? Maybe we should measure "correctness" of an OS instead here? The last time I say any attempt to quantify and compare such things was about 10 years ago http://bulk.fefe.de/ --- we don't see reviews of OS releases like that anymore. I can't believe 80% of Linux reviews are reviews of how pretty the installer is, the desktop theme and the default package selection. |
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