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| Solaris 11.1 released |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-10-04 21:30:36 |
| "Oracle today announced Oracle Solaris 11.1, delivering over 300 new performance and feature enhancements to the Oracle Solaris 11 product family." This stuff goes way over my head. |
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| Solaris 11 11/11 |
| By UltraZelda64 on 2012-10-05 10:22:44 |
| The only download links I see on their download page are for Solaris 11 11/11. So... I take it they put up the announcement before actually uploading/updating their download links? |
 - Score: 2 |
| RE: lets stop talking about performance and stability |
| By ggeldenhuys on 2012-10-05 11:20:33 |
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> I can't believe 80% of Linux reviews are reviews of how pretty the installer is, the desktop theme and the default package selection. +1 That drives me nuts as well! Those are the least significant parts of a running system. |
| - Score: 5 |
| Meh |
| By Drunkula on 2012-10-05 12:43:30 |
| While it is a great OS I think I'll keep Gentoo Linux on my old Sun Ultra 2 Enterprise (for now). Never had a problem with Solaris per se, other than that hideous [local] terminal display. |
| - Score: 1 |
| RE[2]: lets stop talking about performance and stability |
| By Doc Pain on 2012-10-05 13:35:47 |
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> > I can't believe 80% of Linux reviews are reviews of how pretty the installer is, the desktop theme and the default package selection. +1 That drives me nuts as well! Those are the least significant parts of a running system. But sadly, the most important ones considered by possible users. The "first sight effect" is important here. So any OS, no matter how powerful it is, will not appeal if the installer isn't a pretty conglomerate of GUI dialogs, in sequential manner, with defaults tailored for desktop use. Even among "geeks" (those who actually install an OS, because ordinary users aren't aware of what it is) this seems to be more and more important, and mostly found in... Linux reviews, yes. |
| - Score: 3 |
| Still no tower/notebook models |
| By Thomas2005 on 2012-10-05 14:18:01 |
| A 15" notebook is probably asking too much, but it would be nice if Oracle offered a single processor tower model, or at least a standard ATX motherboard with processor, so we could build our own system. Even if people did not use Solaris, Oracle would still get a hardware sale. |
| - Score: 1 |
| RE[3]: lets stop talking about performance and stability |
| By moondevil on 2012-10-05 15:09:51 |
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> So any OS, no matter how powerful it is, will not appeal if the installer isn't a pretty conglomerate of GUI dialogs, in sequential manner, with defaults tailored for desktop use. If you are talking about home users, I agree with you. In the enterprise world there are plenty of ugly OS to chose from. For example, I fail to see what systems still running VMS or OS/400 (now z/OS) have to do with pretty. |
| - Score: 3 |
| RE[2]: lets stop talking about performance and stability |
| By MacMan on 2012-10-05 15:14:11 |
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> I can't believe 80% of Linux reviews are reviews of how pretty the installer is, the desktop theme and the default package selection. Is there really anything else that distinguishes one Linux "distro" from another? |
| - Score: 4 |
| RE[4]: lets stop talking about performance and stability |
| By Doc Pain on 2012-10-05 15:23:06 |
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> > So any OS, no matter how powerful it is, will not appeal if the installer isn't a pretty conglomerate of GUI dialogs, in sequential manner, with defaults tailored for desktop use. If you are talking about home users, I agree with you. That's what I wanted to point out. Home users are considered the primary audience. Server OS like Solaris seem to be more and more regarded a niche market... > In the enterprise world there are plenty of ugly OS to chose from. For example, I fail to see what systems still running VMS or OS/400 (now z/OS) have to do with pretty. You're confusing terminology: OS/400 has been called i5/OS, and today IBM i; let's see what name it will have tomorrow, z/OS is what MVS has been (the OS/360 line). But you're right: Those systems aren't very pretty from a home user's point of view. Still they have strengths (like compatibility back to the 1970's), and many critical businesses (banking anyone?) rely on them. Also OS/400 is still very popular, but nobody really knows that. VMS may be an exception. I know that MAN DIESEL did /at least 3 years ago) run VMS software on a SimH-emulated VAX system: http://www.openvms.org/stories.p... In my experience, it's not that much about "pretty vs. ugly", it's about "being different while seeing similarities". Still, most advantages come for the price of some inconvenience. I know many of them (having used mainframe, midrange and commercial UNIXes in many different forms) and I agree: There is lots of uglyness in them if you look close enough. :-) |
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| RE[3]: lets stop talking about performance and stability |
| By jessesmith on 2012-10-05 19:07:30 |
| This is true. However, more to the point, if the installer doesn't work then it doesn't matter how great the rest of the OS is. I've seen some pretty interesting projects which simply wouldn't install on my hardware. At makes the installer a pretty important part of any review: how flexible it is, how it handles errors, whether it has sane defaults, etc. |
| - Score: 2 |
| RE: Still no tower/notebook models |
| By tylerdurden on 2012-10-05 21:29:56 |
| Engineering those systems is not free, it costs money. The market size for said systems is not large enough for Oracle to bother, since the number of orders would likely not offset the production/design costs. Oracle is in business in order to make money, and they seem to be exceedingly good at it. |
| - Score: 3 |
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