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Solaris 11.1 released
By Thom Holwerda on 2012-10-04 21:30:36
"Oracle today announced Oracle Solaris 11.1, delivering over 300 new performance and feature enhancements to the Oracle Solaris 11 product family." This stuff goes way over my head.
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RE[5]: lets stop talking about performance and stability
By moondevil on 2012-10-05 21:55:06
> You're confusing terminology: OS/400 has been called i5/OS, and today IBM i; let's see what name it will have tomorrow, z/OS is what MVS has been (the OS/360 line).

Yeah, I should have looked it up before posting, as it was long time ago I have used such system.

One of my duties during a summer training was to perform backups of an OS/400 system, back in 1994.
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RE[2]: Still no tower/notebook models
By moondevil on 2012-10-05 21:57:11
Sun used to have them.

At least in the US, you could get Toshiba laptops with Solaris pre-installed.

I remember seeing them on the online shop.
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Wot no "Metro" UI?
By quackalist on 2012-10-06 00:59:19
I'm shocked to find no mention of a "Metro" style UI...how will this be able to compete against Windows Server?
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RE[3]: Still no tower/notebook models
By kuraegomon on 2012-10-06 05:57:54
And Sun was so successful at making money... that they got swallowed up by Oracle. You just proved the parent's point quite handily :-)
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RE[4]: Still no tower/notebook models
By moondevil on 2012-10-06 08:54:08
Maybe, but the reasons for Sun's commercial failure are much more than trying to sell laptops with Solaris pre-installed.
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Re[5]
By kurkosdr on 2012-10-06 10:57:18
The reasons of Sun's commercial failure were trying to sell Solaris and SPARC servers in a world of cheap Linux and x86-64 servers. Oracle might find themselves into the same trouble if they don't make Solaris have that "something" that will set it apart from Linux, or don't make SPARC price-performance competitive. Of course they could also try to lock their database software to Solaris, but the backlash will be huge so they 'll probably not do it

Desktops and laptops running Solaris, and SPARC desktops and laptops running Solaris, were unimportant pet projects since the early 2000s. They had no significant impact in Sun's bottom line whatsoever. The age of the RISC workstation ended with the 90s.

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RE[3]: Solaris 11 = Best Enterprise OS Ever.
By Lennie on 2012-10-06 22:49:38
I guess that was just OpenSolaris.

Edited 2012-10-06 22:50 UTC
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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
By Lennie on 2012-10-06 22:51:21
Stable or stale ? ;-)

Just kidding, couldn't resist.
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RE[5]: Still no tower/notebook models
By tylerdurden on 2012-10-07 01:01:06
I disagree, the reason for SUN's demise is very simple: not enough customers were buying (or likely to) enough products for enough money to justify SUN's cost structures in the medium/long run, so investors bailed. Investors are in it to make money, if a corporation is likely to have decreasing profits then they start to look elsewhere. Personally, I think it is a sociopathic system, and very limited, but that is how things are set up currently.


BTW, the fact that Toshiba may have sold laptops with Solaris preloaded is irrelevant to the point I was making: systems engineering is not free. For Oracle to sell a SPARC ATX board, it would only make sense if the market was large enough to justify the engineering costs for the product. Maybe Oracle could create a marketing campaign to increase the size of said market, but it is clear that has little probability of succeeding given an off the shelf x86 price/performance ratio.

Edited 2012-10-07 01:02 UTC
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RE: Still no tower/notebook models
By Drumhellar on 2012-10-07 03:41:30
I think Tadpole still makes ruggedized notebooks with SPARC chips.

But really, SPARC on the desktop has been dead for a while.
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