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| Apple posts Jobs tribute video |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-10-05 10:45:25 |
| Beautiful video tribute and written message from Tim Cook regarding Steve Jobs, who passed away one year ago today. |
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| RE: I get it |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-10-07 11:15:15 |
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The quote has been explained quite a few times. I'm sure Thom and other Apple/Steve haters understand it, but they keep pretending they don't. That's why Thom and others never discus it, instead replying with silly one liners or sidestepping it entirely. It's sad that someone who claims to find it imporant we should know our history rewrites it simply because he hates a person and his company, although he did buy an iMac. |
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| RE: Gutless |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-10-07 11:17:33 |
| When did Steve Jobs sue The Beatles? |
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| RE[2]: I get it |
| By TM99 on 2012-10-07 13:03:41 |
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Except, Picasso never bloody well said that! That is revisionism and worship of Jobs at its best. It was T.S. Elliot who said something along those lines. Then Jobs uttered that it was Picasso, warped it to fit his need, and here we are today arguing over the content that he couldn't even get right. Look, Jobs was a brilliant narcissist. He could say exactly what someone, anyone wanted to hear. He always had a justification for his behavior, good or bad, and said and did the opposite with regards to others. He 'copied' and 'innovated' on the shoulders of others. But god damned if any body else can do that with Apple. The Reality Distortion Field is a part of the charm of a narcissist. Apple & Jobs said never would they produce a 7" iPad, yet here we are a month away from the production of one. It will be over-priced, shiny, and with the Apple logo something that all 'people' just have got to have. That is the legacy of Jobs, and what history will remember is not what Apple & Jobs gave but rather what a sociopathic CEO & his company took from the computing industry. |
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| RE[3]: I get it |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-10-07 13:45:44 |
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Picasso did say that and Elliot said "Immature poets imitate. Mature poets steal". So Picasso probably got inspired by Elliot and Steve quoted Picasso. But it doesn't really matter who said what, but rather what it means. What it means is explained here a few times and can be found on a number of sites. |
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| RE[4]: I get it |
| By TM99 on 2012-10-07 14:27:16 |
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Repeating a meme doesn't make it true. It is a rumor, and it was T.S. Elliot (who didn't even use those words!) and many before him including Shakespeare. The point is that Jobs used that quote to justify his 'way' but is it ok now for others to 'steal' from Apple and innovate the future of mobile computing as well? http://gizmodo.com/5483914/steve... For the current crop of Apple supporters, the answer is no. For those of us neutral to corporate love but following the tech industry closely because it is either our work or influences greatly our work & culture, if the answer is no, the consequences are not good for all us. |
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| RE[5]: I get it |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-10-07 14:32:14 |
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Steve didn't justify, he explained how he and Apple worked. How business is conducted by Apple and others these days is something you can discuss in great lengths, but it doesn't have any influence on what Steve meant with that quote which a number of people are unable to understand or simple refuse to understand. |
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| RE[6]: I get it |
| By TM99 on 2012-10-07 14:39:53 |
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I understand perfectly well what he meant and why he said it. I can also look at how he and Apple acted prior to that and after that including now with companies like Samsung. It is pointless to get you or any Apple supporter to actually look at facts within context. The dumbing down of western culture indeed and the rise of the superstar sociopath CEO's. Edited 2012-10-07 14:41 UTC |
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| Second attempt |
| By BallmerKnowsBest on 2012-10-07 17:38:06 |
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My previous post was down-modded?!?!? Awww, what's wrong, guys, didn't you like my tribute? Maybe I should try that again: RIP Steve, never before has a major company had a CEO who looked so much like the Balok puppet from Star Trek: http://images.businessweek.com/s... http://www.treknicalities.com/wp... Here's hoping Clint Howard plays Jobs in the inevitable biopic, he'd be perfect. "You can use rounded corners on rectangles if and when I authorize it... if and when I AUTHORIZE IT!" |
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| RE[2]: Made their website inaccessible |
| By Mellin on 2012-10-07 18:02:36 |
| no one outside mac os x is interested in bloated quicktime for windows |
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| RE[7]: I get it |
| By MOS6510 on 2012-10-07 18:11:13 |
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You may understand it, or at least say you do, but many others don't. Wether Apple is hypocritical about it doesn't matter and another discussion, although I don't doubt you can make a good case about that they are. The only thing I tried to do was explain the quote which so many Apple/Steve haters misuse. It's okay to not like some person or some company, but when wrong arguments are presented I simply try to correct them. In each Apple related discussion, which is about almost every topic on this site, I see people say or claim "facts" about Apple, Steve Jobs or their hard- and software that aren't true. And it's sad that when someone explains why it's not true they get modded down and people who write childish, wrong or illogical stuff get modded up and cheered on. When I was full-time in to Linux the same thing happened with Microsoft and Bill Gates. I didn't like Windows or Microsoft, but in the end I spend time more defending them than I did promoting Linux. |
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