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| Trinity Desktop Environment 3.5.13.1 released! |
| By Thom Holwerda, submitted by OSGuy on 2012-10-15 23:22:32 |
| "The Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) development team is pleased to announce the immediate availability of version 3.5.13.1 of the Trinity Desktop Environment. The Trinity Desktop Environment is a complete software desktop environment designed for Unix-like operating systems, intended for computer users preferring a traditional desktop model, and is free/libre software." Not the first time we mention TDE, but it's basically the continuation of KDE 3.x. There's a market for this. |
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| Trinity vs. MATE |
| By UltraZelda64 on 2012-10-15 23:38:56 |
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Now, first I'll start by saying that the subject wasn't meant to be a comparison between the two. I was actually equally interested in both right from the start when KDE and GNOME decided to make such a major upgrade. Problem is, it seems that the Trinity desktop is barely getting any support; almost no distributions seem to support it in any way, let alone provide packages. Even more disappointingly, this seems to extend to Debian--and if a package is not in Debian, then... well, that's saying something. Debian has almost everything. Yet, the MATE desktop quickly gained support from Mint, Fedora is going to be supporting it, and several other distros have been released either with MATE as an alternative to or instead of GNOME 3. I've actually lost track. What exactly is going on? Are that many people just really happy with MATE, Cinnamon, GNOME 3, and KDE4 to care about KDE3? Or is Trinity a victim all this excess competition in Linux desktops? |
 - Score: 3 |
| Trinity |
| By kwan_e on 2012-10-15 23:43:10 |
| Aptly named, as both are inexplicable. |
| - Score: 4 |
| RE: Trinity vs. MATE |
| By ssokolow on 2012-10-16 00:44:52 |
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It's also possible that there's some requirement the Trinity devs have the bad luck to not meet. (eg. Maybe they don't know who to ask or maybe Debian is currently fresh out of trusted package maintainers with free time.) Either way, it's a shame. I run their Ubuntu packages (they run their own copy of the launchpad build system) under a Lubuntu desktop and they're an excellent workaround for the KDE 4 port of BasKet Note Pads being unusably buggy and the KDE 4 port of KAudioCreator being either nonexistant or not packaged for Ubuntu. |
| - Score: 2 |
| ... |
| By Hiev on 2012-10-16 01:39:43 |
| Wouldn't have been easier to fork KDE4 and make it more like KDE3 instead? |
| - Score: 3 |
| RE: ... |
| By kwan_e on 2012-10-16 01:48:09 |
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> Wouldn't have been easier to fork KDE4 and make it more like KDE3 instead? No. |
| - Score: 3 |
| RE: Trinity vs. MATE |
| By TechGeek on 2012-10-16 01:50:45 |
| I think Hiev basically nailed it. While I hate the new Gnome interface, the problem is the philosophy of the design and not the technology. I suspect that there are a number of systems that Trinity doesn't work with because its based on old technology. If they had forked Gnome 3 or KDE 4 they might have been in a better spot to be added to modern distros. As with any free environment, freedom does not guarantee making the right decisions. You are free to fail just as much as you are free to succeed. |
| - Score: 6 |
| RE[2]: ... |
| By Hiev on 2012-10-16 02:03:30 |
| You are presenting such convincing arguments, I'm shock. |
| - Score: 1 |
| RE[3]: ... |
| By UltraZelda64 on 2012-10-16 02:22:58 |
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> You are presenting such convincing arguments, I'm shock. Hey, at least his "argument" to you wasn't calling you a retard. That was basically my first encounter with him... Anyway, they were able to do it with GNOME 2 (MATE); why would a KDE3 fork (Trinity) be able to work as well? Edited 2012-10-16 02:23 UTC |
| - Score: 2 |
| RE: Trinity vs. MATE |
| By phoenix on 2012-10-16 02:26:18 |
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The TDE site includes repos for Debian, Ubuntu, and a bunch of others. Unfortunately, the Ubuntu PPA packages conflict with KDE4, so you can't install them both to test. :( |
| - Score: 3 |
| RE[4]: ... |
| By kwan_e on 2012-10-16 02:45:38 |
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> > You are presenting such convincing arguments, I'm shock. Hey, at least his "argument" to you wasn't calling you a retard. That was basically my first encounter with him... You and Hiev, birds of a feather. |
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