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Trinity Desktop Environment 3.5.13.1 released!
By Thom Holwerda, submitted by OSGuy on 2012-10-15 23:22:32
"The Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) development team is pleased to announce the immediate availability of version 3.5.13.1 of the Trinity Desktop Environment. The Trinity Desktop Environment is a complete software desktop environment designed for Unix-like operating systems, intended for computer users preferring a traditional desktop model, and is free/libre software." Not the first time we mention TDE, but it's basically the continuation of KDE 3.x. There's a market for this.
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Why?
By diegoviola on 2012-10-16 11:54:54
Not to dismiss the great work of these people, but if you want a traditional desktop in KDE.

Why not just set folderview as your desktop and switch to the classic menu style in KDE4?
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RE: Why?
By jessesmith on 2012-10-16 12:10:02
I think that really hits on why Trinity hasn't gained more adoption. When KDE4 first came out it was buggy, but the overall design was good. By the time the conservative distributions had adopted KDE4 most of the bugs were worked out. Running KDE4 with "low fat" settings and the classic desktop look is close enough to KDE3 in style that people can transition fairly easily. the only folks who are likely to use Trinity are those who are very stuck in their ways and who don't mind dealing with dependency issues that arise from trying to run older software on a modern distro.
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RE: Trinity vs. MATE
By cyrilleberger on 2012-10-16 12:30:17
> Problem is, it seems that the Trinity desktop is barely getting any support; almost no distributions seem to support it in any way, let alone provide packages.
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What exactly is going on? Are that many people just really happy with MATE, Cinnamon, GNOME 3, and KDE4 to care about KDE3? Or is Trinity a victim all this excess competition in Linux desktops?


One of the main problem of Trinity is that it does not bring much value. Unlike between Gnome 2 and 3, where there is a huge difference, you can make KDE4 looks and feel almost like KDE3, while Gnome 3 is a radical change compared to Gnome 2.

It makes me suspect that there is limited user demands for trinity in comparison to MATE. I also suspect that the interest in MATE will fade once Cinnamon has matured a little bit more.
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RE[2]: Why?
By dnebdal on 2012-10-16 12:34:39
> I think that really hits on why Trinity hasn't gained more adoption. When KDE4 first came out it was buggy, but the overall design was good. By the time the conservative distributions had adopted KDE4 most of the bugs were worked out. Running KDE4 with "low fat" settings and the classic desktop look is close enough to KDE3 in style that people can transition fairly easily. the only folks who are likely to use Trinity are those who are very stuck in their ways and who don't mind dealing with dependency issues that arise from trying to run older software on a modern distro.

Agreed. KDE 4 feels like an attempt to make a better KDE 3, while neither gnome 3 nor unity were attempts to make a better gnome 2. Sure, they're aiming to make a better desktop environment than gnome 2- but that's not quite the same thing.
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RE[2]: Support for Debian Testing
By Anonymous Penguin on 2012-10-16 13:13:24
Testing is frozen ATM, thus it is a lot safer than Sid and a lot more recent than Stable.
P.S. Apologies. When Testing is frozen, there isn't much change in Sid either.

Edited 2012-10-16 13:28 UTC
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RE: Why?
By latreides on 2012-10-16 13:33:31
That is not even remotely the same thing. That's the equivalent of saying "If you don't like Vista just put an XP skin on it and call it XP"

That being said, a fork of KDE4 as Cinnamon did to Gnome 3 would be a better path. You could fix what is fundamentally broken by design in KDE4 and still benefit by what they did right.
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RE: Why?
By Hiev on 2012-10-16 14:04:19
I would say that is not only the looks, it is also the architecture, KDE4 comes with Activities, Nepomuk and other crap people don't use and get in their way, KDE3 is better in this area.
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RE[2]: Why?
By diegoviola on 2012-10-16 14:34:41
> I would say that is not only the looks, it is also the architecture, KDE4 comes with Activities, Nepomuk and other crap people don't use and get in their way, KDE3 is better in this area.

I use KDE 4.9.2 currently, and I disable all that stuff, I disable Activities, Nepomuk, etc.

I also set folderview as my desktop layout and enable the classic menu style.

I couldn't be happier with it.
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RE[3]: Why?
By Hiev on 2012-10-16 15:04:27
I doubt it.
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RE[4]: Why?
By diegoviola on 2012-10-16 15:20:31
You doubt what?
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