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| iOS 6 adoption one month in |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-10-19 13:56:25 |
| "Looking at the stats for all our apps (we have 4 universal apps with almost 3 million downloads) and for all versions after a month gives an interesting picture." Close to 70% is on iOS 6 already. In the meantime, Sony just announced it's going to leave loads of users in the cold by not upgrading their phones to Jelly Bean. Those that do have an update in the pipeline will have to wait until next year. |
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| The coming of the Nexusi... |
| By Bill Shooter of Bul on 2012-10-19 14:04:55 |
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There are rumors swirling that Google is partnering with LG, HTC, Samsung and Sony are about to unleash new nexus smart phones. I think the idea is to push stock android on more devices that can be updated more frequently than what the manufacturers can do right now. Also, with that being said, I think the IOS 6 numbers are expected to be low as people hold off on the upgrade until they know maps is okay. I navigated with a friend using ios 6 maps last weekend. It worked fine. I imagine it would for any non major city goer who doesn't need public transportation routing, if they're still in a populated area. |
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| Interesting but... |
| By gpsnoopy on 2012-10-19 14:27:31 |
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The sampling method is very biased, as it accounts only for the people who have upgraded to the latest version of Discovr Music. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that there is a high correlation between upgrading to the latest Discovr Music and upgrading to the latest iOS. (Or as I like to read it: people who like to upgrade software upgrade their software) Such sampling method is incompatible with the official results from Google. To get comparable results, we need a similar approach from Apple. |
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| Out in the cold |
| By unoengborg on 2012-10-19 14:30:08 |
| The Sony users may have been left out in the cold, but thay can at least still use Google maps to find their way home |
| - Score: 10 |
| RE: The coming of the Nexusi... |
| By jared_wilkes on 2012-10-19 15:11:24 |
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Even Nexus devices get updates months after availability. iOS 6 adoption is not low -- by any measure. That's the point. It is absurdly high and achieved at a pace that hardly has any peer to speed of adoption -- whether mobile or any other platform type. It's 50-70% already (by various measures comparable to this). By what measure is that low? The FUD on Maps has been absurdly overblown. Edited 2012-10-19 15:22 UTC |
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| RE: Interesting but... |
| By jared_wilkes on 2012-10-19 15:15:11 |
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No, the data isn't predicated on updating the app; the app, upgraded or not, reports the OS being used (the post states that the data is provided for their 4 apps, across all versions in use). I have no idea what you mean by this is inconsistent with Google sampling methods because there is no data for Google whatsoever in the post, but everyone knows uptake of the latest Google update is objectively bad. Different methods of data collection (and visiting Google Play within a certain timeframe is a rather poor measure anyway, it shouldn't be a standard method of measuring OS adoption) isn't going to alter the enormous disparity between the 2 platforms. Edited 2012-10-19 15:21 UTC |
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| RE[2]: Interesting but... |
| By gpsnoopy on 2012-10-19 15:28:53 |
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The link within the article states that they only consider the new version of Discovr Music. See 2nd paragraph of http://discovr.info/2012/10/disc... For the Google numbers: "[...] based on the number of Android devices that have accessed Google Play within a 14-day period ending on the data collection date noted below." (http://developer.android.com/abo...) Note that the phone periodically connects to Google Play for updates by default. No user interaction is needed, except that the phone has to be turned on. |
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| RE[3]: Interesting but... |
| By jared_wilkes on 2012-10-19 15:40:18 |
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No, that post says that while he was looking at data for one of his app's updates, he was taken by the rate of adoption of iOS. For the subset of those updating the one app, the adoption rate for iOS is 77%. It never states that the data in the post Thom links is only the subset of those updating the 1 app; it states the opposite. The link provided by Thom specifically states the data is across all versions of all 4 of their apps. And here we see that the adoption rate across all 4 apps and all versions is, as expected, lower but comparably high (55%-70%). I know how Google measures OS update releases. I'm stating that its a poor measure -- Apple doesn't have to indirectly record other OEM's devices through a store. And I'm also stating that the disparity is so huge that handwaving about different methods of arriving at the results is absurd. There is no data collection method that is ever going to show Android uptake remotely close to iOS uptake. Edited 2012-10-19 15:57 UTC |
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| RE[2]: The coming of the Nexusi... |
| By Bill Shooter of Bul on 2012-10-19 15:51:23 |
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I would expect that the adoption of ios6 would be slower than the adoption of ios5. The Maps situation is not all FUD. Like I said with the previous post, its better on ios6 for many people, worse for others (ie, those that need public transit routing). If I lived in the urban areas like NY, Chicago, Boston, Washington DC, London, Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam, Madrid, Toronto, Barcelona, ect, I would not recommend the upgrade to IOS 6. |
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| RE[3]: The coming of the Nexusi... |
| By jared_wilkes on 2012-10-19 15:53:19 |
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But you are wrong: iOS6 adoption is occuring faster than iOS5. I am not stating that Maps is devoid of any problems (Google Maps can't even say that). I AM stating that Maps is not slowing iOS6 adoption, that your "recommendation" is poor advice, and that making that unsupported claim, that iOS6 adoption is being and should be slowed because of Maps, is merely FUD. Edited 2012-10-19 15:55 UTC |
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| RE[4]: Interesting but... |
| By gpsnoopy on 2012-10-19 15:59:16 |
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I missed the first graph picture due to an office filter. But I found it funny that it proves my point that the sampling is biased. The second paragraph that I pointed out earlier, gives 77% iOS6 on the 10 October as it's only considering the latest version of Discovr Music. While the graph in the new post states ~60% on the same date as it consider a larger sample (four apps and several versions). That's a pretty large difference. And the larger sample is still heavily biased as it's related to one vendor with its user base, and not randomly sampled across every iPhone/iPad owner. I don't understand why you think that the Google method is so flawed. All Android devices apart from the Kindle regularly connects to Google Play for automatic updates. How is considering only 4 apps from one vendor in the App Store better? iOS 6 adoption rate might be great, but I still long for Apple to publish results, and if possible on a larger less biased sample. For the moment, only Google does. |
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