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| iOS 6 adoption one month in |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-10-19 13:56:25 |
| "Looking at the stats for all our apps (we have 4 universal apps with almost 3 million downloads) and for all versions after a month gives an interesting picture." Close to 70% is on iOS 6 already. In the meantime, Sony just announced it's going to leave loads of users in the cold by not upgrading their phones to Jelly Bean. Those that do have an update in the pipeline will have to wait until next year. |
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| RE[13]: The coming of the Nexusi... |
| By jared_wilkes on 2012-10-19 21:00:56 |
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I'm not trying to enforce anything; I'm trying to give you advice however. I don't think the answer is quite clearly "marriage" nor is the original poster willing to explain. So why should I accept someone else's (someone who also likely does not even know the original poster) interpretation? |
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| RE[14]: The coming of the Nexusi... |
| By Shannara on 2012-10-19 21:03:49 |
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That ... is a very good question .. My answer would be ... you shouldn't. If the poster refuse to provide an answer, then the problem is with the poster, not you, or me, or anyone else. |
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| RE[8]: Interesting but... |
| By gpsnoopy on 2012-10-19 21:07:56 |
| Where? |
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| RE[2]: The coming of the Nexusi... |
| By macUser on 2012-10-19 21:10:43 |
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There is no FUD on Maps. It is utterly craptastic and unusable. I have zero faith in the results after it left my wife stranded and her ride 20 minutes away scratching their head. I dropped a pin of her location to her ride and messaged the pin to her ride. The ride, received a completely different pin location 20 minutes away! Both phones were iOS6. There is no free pass on this. If Maps isn't made trustworthy my next phone will not be from Apple. |
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| RE[9]: Interesting but... |
| By jared_wilkes on 2012-10-19 21:11:42 |
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Where what? Where don't they need to provide a dashboard? EVERYWHERE. Where do they announce worldwide iOS upgrade adoption at their events? Where their events are held, be that the Yerba Buena Ctr, the Apple Town Hall, or the newest location for the event on Tuesday. |
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| RE[8]: Interesting but... |
| By gpsnoopy on 2012-10-19 21:48:47 |
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> No, you are not. Don't throw around words like "highly biased". Your only initial basis for such a claim is that it measured updaters so people who update are likely to update other things as well. Their oldest post could only lead to this conclusion, giving that that they only considered the new version. > I see no bias in one source providing data from the only source available to them. I do. It's called sampling bias. Even if it's not intentional. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam... > You haven't shown huge variation. They have a >16% relative error between their two posts (70% to 60%). This is quite a large variation considering the sampled populations between the two charts are highly correlated. That's why we need a more solid source to have a better and more accurate view. Something the Google Dashboard provides (yet you seem to dismiss it). EDIT: looking more closely at the charts and the blog dates, their absolute error between the chart is 17%, the relative error is 30%. > You have not presented any evidence, any realism, or any logic to support the claim that this data set is disparate from any other data set. I just have. I've just shown you that there is a 16% variation within their own sampled population. Given the high correlation between their two charts, it means that a less correlated sampled population could have much larger error. > There is no reason to believe that you could likely arrive at a completely different conclusion. Depends on the conclusion. That iOS6 adoption rate is great, especially compared to Android ICS/JB? I agree. That there is no fragmentation at all in iOS land, I disagree. There is too much statistical noise in these couple of charts to draw any valid conclusion. Note that none of their blog post nor the Osnews article conclude anything, they only presented facts. You brought your own conclusion. > And the point of the article is to tell us that Google is more fragmented and slower to be updated than iOS. But you won't accept this because you are living in denial. Everyone knows this and innumerable data sets show the same thing as this data: iOS is the most rapidly updated platform ever and completely crushes Android with regard to uptake and fragmentation. I've always agreed with that the iOS6 adoption rate is great (or rather, I've not even talked about it). My posts focused and are still focusing on the sampling method of these two charts, poking fun at the inherent sampling bias. You've however assumed from the start that I disagreed with the... err... *your* conclusion, and that therefore everything I presented was false. Edited 2012-10-19 22:02 UTC |
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| RE[10]: Interesting but... |
| By gpsnoopy on 2012-10-19 21:51:12 |
| Would you care providing previous instances of such data for past iOS upgrades? |
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| RE[2]: Out in the cold |
| By unoengborg on 2012-10-20 00:56:11 |
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> Sigh Not had enough of your Anti-Apple medicine today then? (sarcasm implied) I don't have an iPhone but an HTC Android phone but even I know that iPhone users can still use Google Maps just by directing their web browser to google maps. No, not nearly enough to keep quiet. It is true they that can use the web, but then they don't get turn by turn navigation like you get on Android. We are expected to pay premium prices for Apple phones and we should expect premium quality products. The state of Apple maps is far from that. It is beta quality at best. So I think Apple deserves all they can get. Delivering something like this is totally out of character for them. |
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| RE: Denial is pathetic |
| By galvanash on 2012-10-20 01:21:05 |
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Who is that directed at? I'm just really curious since as far as I can tell the article you just lashed out at supports most of your post... Where are the clever arguments, rubbish statistics, or speculative claims you are referring to? Maybe you meant to reply to a specific comment? |
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| RE[11]: Interesting but... |
| By galvanash on 2012-10-20 02:12:28 |
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I find I actually agree with both of you on this one... It is fair to call a Kindle Fire an android device as a user, because you can essentially use it as one and it runs Android apps just fine. We all know what it is technically - its Android in all but name. So yes, it is semantics. However, semantics certainly matter when it comes to market share... Kindle should not count toward Android market share because it is not a sanctioned Android device, for the same reasons that Oracle should not get credit for Android applications counting towards their Java installed base - Oracle has nothing to do with Android. In the case of Kindle, Google has nothing to do with it either... Playbooks can run Android apps too, but would you take their market share numbers away from Blackberry and assign them to Google because of that? |
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