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| Wayland 1.0 released |
| By special contributor martini on 2012-10-23 22:02:56 |
| Wayland 1.0 was officialy released on October 22. Wayland is a protocol for a compositor to talk to its clients as well as a C library implementation of that protocol. The compositor can be a standalone display server running on Linux kernel modesetting and evdev input devices, an X application, or a wayland client itself. The clients can be traditional applications, X servers (rootless or fullscreen) or other display servers. |
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| iPad killar |
| By earksiinni on 2012-10-23 22:30:29 |
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Look out, WP7.5! Now that we're finally putting X behind us and have a modern compositing stack, there's new kid on the block, and his name is "Year of Ubuntu with PPA repos on teh Desktop". This is gonna be big. I can feel it. |
 - Score: 7 |
| Comment by Sodki |
| By Sodki on 2012-10-23 22:45:07 |
| To be fair, X11 was "never" the problem. The good thing about Wayland is that it gives us a clean slate to work with and to experiment with. X11 will never go away, we will still be able to use it as a Wayland extension, so everything should work out OK in the end. |
| - Score: 7 |
| Comment by stabbyjones |
| By stabbyjones on 2012-10-23 22:49:18 |
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Now that I've seen they're aiming for network transparency in some form I would really like to try it out when it starts hitting repos. As long as I can ssh a nautilus window from home at work I'll give wayland a go. While X is better than it was when I started using Linux, it doesn't get enough money/attention to keep up. Hopefully wayland can keep it simple. |
| - Score: 4 |
| RE: Comment by stabbyjones |
| By ssokolow on 2012-10-24 01:14:07 |
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> Now that I've seen they're aiming for network transparency in some form I would really like to try it out when it starts hitting repos. As long as I can ssh a nautilus window from home at work I'll give wayland a go. While X is better than it was when I started using Linux, it doesn't get enough money/attention to keep up. Hopefully wayland can keep it simple. Agreed. With network transparency on the plans, I'm cautiously optimistic but I'll wait until I can see how good a job KWin does of ignoring clients' attempts to use client-side window decorations. I've seen far too much pain and suffering from Windows, where a busy app can block itself from being moved, resized, refocused, or minimized. As is, it feels as if Linux might be the only platform REgressing rather than PROgressing when it comes to not trusting applications to be perfect. Edited 2012-10-24 01:21 UTC |
| - Score: 3 |
| RE[2]: Comment by stabbyjones |
| By TechGeek on 2012-10-24 01:22:09 |
| Well, Gnome3 wasn't a change that anyone really wanted. Wayland aims at fixing something everyone knows needs fixing. That plus its being aimed at Fedora and eventually RHEL. Others can choose not to use it, but they will be giving up a lot of compatibility to do so. Apps will start to be ported over to Wayland support, making anyone without Wayland a dying breed. Unless of course it sucks. Then it just won't go anywhere. |
| - Score: 5 |
| RE[3]: Comment by stabbyjones |
| By ssokolow on 2012-10-24 02:34:54 |
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> Well, Gnome3 wasn't a change that anyone really wanted. In the name of fairness, I should point out that I was a happy KDE 3.5 user, couldn't stand the bugs and sluggishness in KDE 4.2 through 4.5 and switched to LXDE when the GNOME guys finally fixed the performance issues in the GTK+ Open/Save dialog. (for folders with many files in them) As a former Gentoo user, I don't think in terms of "THE Linux Desktop Environment" and I think about GNOME 3 about as often as I do CDE. When I talk about the Linux desktop regressing, I'm speaking purely about how client-side window decorations are to window management as cooperative multi-tasking is to concurrency. (Useful when done properly... but not even NASA can guarantee a bug-free program.) Edited 2012-10-24 02:38 UTC |
| - Score: 4 |
| RE[4]: Comment by stabbyjones |
| By Soulbender on 2012-10-24 04:08:12 |
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> but not even NASA can guarantee a bug-free program.) I see you havent heard about Kaspersky ;) |
| - Score: 3 |
| RE[5]: Comment by stabbyjones |
| By hackus on 2012-10-24 04:14:51 |
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Reminds me of the crap research I had to sit through where someone was trying to convince everyone you can mathematically prove a program and make it bug free. What a gigantic load of crap. -Hack |
| - Score: 0 |
| I cant wait |
| By delta0.delta0 on 2012-10-24 05:59:25 |
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I have never really had any issues with X, it has for the most part served me well and developers like Keith Packard helped to push it forward immensely, credit where its due. I think however its about time X was put out to pasture, if only to get rid of the negativity that was piled on it, no matter how much work the X.org developers did or how much they improved it, it was always going to past negativity piled on it. By replacing it with wayland hopefully most of the "haters" can find something better to do with their time. |
| - Score: 6 |
| RE: iPad killar |
| By lucas_maximus on 2012-10-24 07:45:43 |
| not sure if trolling or stupid. |
| - Score: 2 |
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