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Wayland 1.0 released
By special contributor martini on 2012-10-23 22:02:56
Wayland 1.0 was officialy released on October 22. Wayland is a protocol for a compositor to talk to its clients as well as a C library implementation of that protocol. The compositor can be a standalone display server running on Linux kernel modesetting and evdev input devices, an X application, or a wayland client itself. The clients can be traditional applications, X servers (rootless or fullscreen) or other display servers.
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RE: Comment by Sodki
By moondevil on 2012-10-24 07:51:31
Except the clunky architecture for doing high performance graphics rendering.
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RE[2]: iPad killar
By Gusar on 2012-10-24 08:07:15
Nether. It's (trying to be) humorous.
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RE[3]: iPad killar
By lucas_maximus on 2012-10-24 10:14:20
Trying being the operative word.
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RE[6]: Comment by stabbyjones
By lucas_maximus on 2012-10-24 10:19:21
Err well that is called Formal Specification.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For...

In some ways it is similar to unit testing except much more rigorous.

Edited 2012-10-24 10:20 UTC
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RE: I cant wait
By flibble on 2012-10-24 10:39:59
What about those of us that irrationally hate Wayland, where will we be left? :)
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RE[2]: I cant wait
By Spiron on 2012-10-24 10:55:56
well X is hardly going away, it's just going to stop being the first level. For those that still want X you can still install it and use it as a base, in fact that'll probably be the recommended for the next year at least.
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RE[2]: Comment by Sodki
By renox on 2012-10-24 11:21:44
> Except the clunky architecture for doing high performance graphics rendering.Which was solved by the DRI2 extension..
As a matter of fact, Wayland is very much like the DRI2 extension, which is not surprising given that it's the same author.
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RE[2]: Comment by stabbyjones
By renox on 2012-10-24 11:28:04
> I've seen far too much pain and suffering from Windows, where a busy app can block itself from being moved, resized, refocused, or minimized.
Weston (like Windows now) will ping the application and if it doesn't answer will takeover the window, which will allow you to still manage the window.

> As is, it feels as if Linux might be the only platform REgressing rather than PROgressing when it comes to not trusting applications to be perfect.

It's an either/or situation, both have advantages and drawback:
-client side decoration: looks better but can be a problem if the application is blocked and resizing can be "jerky" if the application is slow.
-server side decoration: resizing the window is smooth but the content of the window can be ugly if the application is slow, less pretty for transformed windows.
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RE: I cant wait
By kurkosdr on 2012-10-24 11:40:57
> I have never really had any issues with X, it has for the most part served me well and developers like Keith Packard helped to push it forward immensely, credit where its due.

I think however its about time X was put out to pasture, if only to get rid of the negativity that was piled on it, no matter how much work the X.org developers did or how much they improved it, it was always going to past negativity piled on it.

By replacing it with wayland hopefully most of the "haters" can find something better to do with their time.


As users, we don't care about how "beatifull" an archtecture is or not, as long as it works. But if it doesn't work, we users will hate. X.org breaks compatibility with GPU drivers and binary compatibility with existing apps with every upgrade, so we will whine.

Edited 2012-10-24 11:42 UTC
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RE[3]: Comment by Sodki
By moondevil on 2012-10-24 11:41:20
> > Except the clunky architecture for doing high performance graphics rendering.Which was solved by the DRI2 extension..
As a matter of fact, Wayland is very much like the DRI2 extension, which is not surprising given that it's the same author.


DRI2 was just a better hack, but still an hack.

You can enjoy the discussion here, from the XDC 2012
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php...
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