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The Verge on Surface RT
By Thom Holwerda on 2012-10-24 22:44:13
"There may be a time in the future when all the bugs have been fixed, the third-party app support has arrived, and some very smart engineers in Redmond have ironed out the physical kinks in this type of product which prevent it from being all that it can be. But that time isn't right now - and unfortunately for Microsoft, the clock is ticking." The Verge's review is not so positive, because they focus on what Surface is now.
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RE: Toy
By Bill Shooter of Bul on 2012-10-25 14:04:50
> If it can't run Solid Works and compile a kernel it is just a stylish new toy that locks you down with a high price tag.

Who said it couldn't compile a kernel?
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RE[2]: Toy
By Bill Shooter of Bul on 2012-10-25 16:26:04
Windows RT has a browser that runs JavaScript.
JavaScript is Turing complete

Hence:

http://bellard.org/jslinux/

Should be able to compile a kernel in less than a month or two...

I wouldn't be surprised if Windows RT got a real native compiler at some point, but until then its still possible.
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RE: Comment by Nelson
By Tony Swash on 2012-10-25 18:40:38
> I think that's my issue with The Verge review. The knock on the ecosystem is really unfair.

The Windows Store is growing at a rate of 2,000 apps a week. It is at over 7,000 now. It is nonsensical to suggest that Windows 8 will have an app problem when the addressable installed base will reach over a hundred million in a year.



It goes way beyond Apps. Check out this very well done interactive web page that shows the comparative global positions of the various competing ecosystems. You can click on each OS and see how it does globally with music, films, apps, etc.

http://www.macstories.net/storie...
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Review Definition
By kenji on 2012-10-26 15:37:44
"The Verge's review is not so positive, because they focus on what Surface is now."

That is the PURPOSE of a product review! How can a reviewer speculate as to what a product WILL become and be credible? Reviews are based on observation and testing, both of which have nothing to do with the future.

Speculation is for fanboys and dreamers. Reviews SHOULD be pragmatic.
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RE[3]: Toy
By zima on 2012-10-31 04:35:03
> JavaScript is Turing complete
Hence:
http://bellard.org/jslinux/

Hm, so it could also run virtually any arbitrary emulator inside of it...
I think I know what I'll be wasting CPU cycles on :P (well, maybe in a decade or two)
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RE: Review Definition
By zima on 2012-10-31 04:39:43
That's not really true particularly in ~IT industry.

NVM how the size of company, its position, and expected support play major role down the line - the consumers themselves certainly look also at the future when buying, not only at the present (Osborne effect anyone?)
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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
By zima on 2012-10-31 23:58:52
Learn2EN (dunno, pay more attention during EN classes at your uni or smth), you're embarrassing PL (generally, there's more about EN than substituting - in sentences written with a grammar "intermediate" between the two languages - PL words for English ones that are suggested by auto-correct...)

Edited 2012-11-01 00:12 UTC
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RE: Toy
By zima on 2012-10-31 23:59:47
> If it can't run Solid Works and compile a kernel it is just a stylish new toy
Because so many people care about Solid Works or compiling kernels (hell, by now the kernel-compiling thing is never done by a vast majority of desktop Linux users, I'm sure), on their highly portable tablet...

But WRT UIs in general: especially ~CAD of various kind could be awesome on (large) touchscreens down the line - back to the drawing board model of interaction, after the short detour to unnatural, unwieldy (decoupled from input) monitors.

And I imagine that some apps for Chinese social networks will show up quickly...

Edited 2012-11-01 00:08 UTC
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