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| 'Valve: Linux more viable than Windows 8 for gaming' |
| By Thom Holwerda on 2012-10-29 23:34:02 |
| I'm not 100% sure this is actually word-for-word, but alas. "In a presentation at Ubuntu Developer Summit currently going on in Denmark, Drew Bliss from Valve said that Linux is more viable than Windows 8 for gaming. Windows 8 ships with its own app store and it is moving away from an open platform model." I feel like a broken record by now but here we go again: keep an eye on Valve, even if you're not into games. This is the company pushing NVIDIA and AMD to improve their Linux support, with enough clout and name to actually get stuff done. Valve doesn't mess around. |
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| RE: I'm not a agmer, but |
| By Coxy on 2012-10-30 08:53:48 |
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> Gaming needs ... VOIP, which traditionally accompanies gaming,... Yes, I remember when playing games on my Spectrum 16K, Amstrad CPC 464, and Atari ST. Back then we always had VOIP too ;) Yep VOIP traditionally accompanies games |
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| RE[2]: It's a Valve's game |
| By Thom_Holwerda on 2012-10-30 09:33:55 |
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> What I think Valve should concentrate on is catering to their original users base and partners and concentrating on improving their product. Steam has quite a lot of existing users and a good community. Gabe is just panicking over nothing (steam works perfectly fine in Windows 8). A good businessman doesn't worry about the now, but about tomorrow. Only people with their heads in the sand aren't seeing where Windows is going. Gabe is preparing for that. |
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| RE[3]: It's a Valve's game |
| By jbauer on 2012-10-30 09:55:18 |
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> > What I think Valve should concentrate on is catering to their original users base and partners and concentrating on improving their product. Steam has quite a lot of existing users and a good community. Gabe is just panicking over nothing (steam works perfectly fine in Windows 8). A good businessman doesn't worry about the now, but about tomorrow. Only people with their heads in the sand aren't seeing where Windows is going. Gabe is preparing for that. Agreed. However, if all he can come up for a Plan B is Ubuntu, he might as well bury his head in the sand and save himself the trouble. |
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| RE[4]: It's a Valve's game |
| By Thom_Holwerda on 2012-10-30 10:04:48 |
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I don't think he has a lot of options here. All this Ubuntu stuff is a ruse anyway. They're building a Steambox specification that runs on Linux - quite possibly their own, heavily modified Linux - that developers can target much in the same way they target consoles now. Enthusiasts can still build their own rigs, and OEMs can offer their own Steamboxes. |
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| RE: Interesting |
| By darknexus on 2012-10-30 10:37:01 |
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> Might we see a ValveOS in the coming years? I'd bet on more of a console than a general-purpose os. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the ValveBox (or whatever they call it) if Windows gets too restrictive and neither Linux or Mac work out the way they'd like. |
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| RE[3]: Interesting |
| By Chrispynutt on 2012-10-30 10:42:22 |
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Alien X51 + Valve OS = Something I would be very interested in. Two companies that don't compromise even when one of them is swallowed by the Dell beast. Personally if Linux proves to be too inflexible I would be interested if Vavle just full on forks it rather than just a new distro. |
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| Get real. |
| By spiderman on 2012-10-30 10:46:51 |
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Valve is not interested in Linux. They are just trying to put pressure on Microsoft. In several monthes, Valve and Microsoft will reach an agreement and that will be the end of Valve's support for Linux. |
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| RE[4]: I'm not a agmer, but |
| By cdude on 2012-10-30 10:58:33 |
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I think it will, not today but tomorrow. When talking about games at Linux it seems quit a few people start to think of those 1% market share Linux has on the desktop but it goes far beyond that. There are game-consoles, there are home entertainment systems, there are mobile platforms and so on. Valve going Desktop Linux, and even Ubuntu, is just the door opener. Its the first step to make Linux and Linux based solutions more attractive for gaming, for 3D, for end-users and for the mass market. Valve doing this now will give them a competative advantage. That's in for them: offering there solutions on far more devices to far more customers. Its also a clear step out of the dependency to Microsoft. A dependency that is hitting back now that Microsoft introduced its app store as only way to get software on there new (RT) devices. Its needed else Valve msy find themselfs outruled by Microsoft. |
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| RE[5]: It's a Valve's game |
| By cdude on 2012-10-30 11:06:17 |
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Actually I remember a reply from the Valve team at there Linux blog that the reason for 32-bit Ubuntu 12.04 (not even 64-bit atm) is focus. First they try to get things working satisfying and once done extend the support (64-bit, other distributions, etc). From a development point of view it makes absolute sense that you do not start to spread your limited resources but try to get them focused. Reach one milestone at a time. |
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| RE[3]: Depends on your definition of "viable" |
| By cdude on 2012-10-30 11:17:49 |
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> The future is the future and yes, Microsoft is pushing for Metro, but right now it is NOT a requirement and therefore there is absolutely no functional difference between Steam on Windows 7 and Steam on Windows 8. There is even a very hard requirement. Windows 8 RT is ONLY running Metro. It is correct that Windows 8 RT ships win32 but ONLY Microsoft can use that API and they do in IE10 and Office for RT but NOBODY else can use win32 on RT. This are the whole ARM, Tablet, Phone product-lines. They and the appstore and API limitations did not exist on Windows 7 but they exist NOW on Windows 8. |
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