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Four million people already upgraded to Windows 8
By Thom Holwerda on 2012-10-30 18:10:09
Steve Ballmer has just announced that in the first three days of being on sale, more than 4 million people have bought the Windows 8 upgrade. This doesn't count OEM installations or Microsoft's own Surface - just individual upgrades. Definitely a promising start for Windows 8, but then, these are most likely enthusiasts (I'm one of those four million), so we still don't know a whole lot. I'm patiently waiting for the response from regular consumers.
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RE[3]: It's Another Windows 95!!
By UltraZelda64 on 2012-10-31 00:13:17
Maybe if they would stop spending so much f***ing money on advertising, then we would no longer have to spend such outrageous amounts of money just to obtain a license to use their operating system. Of course, their monopoly doesn't help much either.
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It's Another Windows 95!! LOL wrong
By oiaohm on 2012-10-31 00:21:51
Windows 95 people went in and acquired boxes of the Microsoft Operating system who did not even own a computer.

The age of the frenzy is over for Microsoft.
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RE: WindowzzZ
By Morgan on 2012-10-31 00:39:21
You know it's funny; even with all those "200 processes" I still have minimal latency when playing my guitar through effects processors on Windows, yet on a Mac with GarageBand or a GNU/Linux box (even with a low latency kernel) I have all kinds of issues with latency. That's a big problem even for an amateur musician like me.

And before you say "but it's your hardware!", all three OSes are on an Intel Mac mini.

GNU/Linux is a great OS for a lot of things, but please, know what the hell you're talking about before making stupid statements like that.
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RE: It's Another Windows 95!! LOL wrong
By Morgan on 2012-10-31 00:45:27
Or like my naïve 18-year-old self, didn't research compatibility and bought Windows 95 for a laptop with 4MB of RAM and no upgrade path. I eventually managed to get it to install, but it ran like drunken snail.

I get your point though; that "Start me up!" ad was compelling, and I never was a Stones man by any stretch.
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No Thank You
By tuaris on 2012-10-31 01:02:47
I wouldn't touch Windows 8 even with a 10 foot pooper-scooper.
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Not Ringing My Bell So Far
By HappyGod on 2012-10-31 01:04:42
Windows 8 is the first version of Windows I actually bought with money since Windows 95. And even that I went in thirds with two other student friends.

The experience so far has been less than stellar:

int msUpgradePointsTally = 0;

1. I download the "upgrade assistant" app to check whether I could upgrade. This made me a bit nervous as I was running a pirate version of Win7. And ... it didn't work.

The .exe kept crashing as it tried to "unpack its box". Executing my Google-fu, I quickly learned that this link is duff, and that you have to download it several times before it will work: msUpgradePointsTally--;

2. I start the install, and it provides me with a few options about keeping all my crap. Essentially: upgrade with your programs, with just your personal stuff, or with nothing.

I choose "with my programs", and it informs me that Windows Media Center isn't supported, and therefore that whole option is unavailable!! So because 1 app isn't compatible, I have to re-install everything!? msUpgradePointsTally--;

3. I "choose" to upgrade with my personal stuff, and get to the payment screen. I choose PayPal. Crash. msUpgradePointsTally--;

4. After the upgrade Windows politely explains that my screen resolution is too low for "Windows Snap" to work (or something like that). I think to myself; "Who cares. Sounds like something I don't need anyhow, Right?".

Wrong. Turns out that if your resolution is too low for snap. It's too low for everything! As a consequence I cannot run any Metro app. The entire Win8 start screen is just a bunch of pretty boxes of no bloody use whatsoever. msUpgradePointsTally--;

5. I finally get the damn thing installed. It's my media PC, so it's time to get MS' free Media Center pack. I jump online and fill out the form. It says, "Your product key has been sent to you!". So I wait. Hours go by. Days go by. Nothing.

Time for Google-fu. Turns out that the screen did in fact warn me that my key could take "up to 24 hours". There was some MS guy trying to defend this wait. But there is no defense. It's ridiculous. Anyhow, day 3, and I finally got it in my inbox this morning.
msUpgradePointsTally--;

Console.WriteLine(msUpgrade PointsTally);
-5


Epic fail.
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RE: Not Ringing My Bell So Far
By Morgan on 2012-10-31 02:06:27
> I download the "upgrade assistant" app to check whether I could upgrade. This made me a bit nervous as I was running a pirate version of Win7. And ... it didn't work.

Seriously? You expected a legitimate commercial OS to upgrade your pirated, hacked version? You were setting yourself up for failure, but I think that was the point of your "experiment". Next time try installing from scratch like any other sane person would when faced with your situation. You just invalidated the rest of your rant with this bullshit.
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RE: Not Ringing My Bell So Far
By WereCatf on 2012-10-31 02:08:58
> 2. I start the install, and it provides me with a few options about keeping all my crap. Essentially: upgrade with your programs, with just your personal stuff, or with nothing.

I choose "with my programs", and it informs me that Windows Media Center isn't supported, and therefore that whole option is unavailable!! So because 1 app isn't compatible, I have to re-install everything!? msUpgradePointsTally--;


Wow, now that I didn't know. Talk about piss-poor execution of the upgrade! Hell, I can imagine almost everyone having atleast one unsupported application, meaning that people will have to re-install everything.

> 4. After the upgrade Windows politely explains that my screen resolution is too low for "Windows Snap" to work (or something like that). I think to myself; "Who cares. Sounds like something I don't need anyhow, Right?".

Wrong. Turns out that if your resolution is too low for snap. It's too low for everything! As a consequence I cannot run any Metro app. The entire Win8 start screen is just a bunch of pretty boxes of no bloody use whatsoever. msUpgradePointsTally--;


That's something I, too, found exceedingly stupid on Microsoft's part. Having low-resolution displays is not uncommon, and it says quite a lot about this whole thing that it's too inflexible to be able to accommodate various screen resolutions.
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RE[2]: Not Ringing My Bell So Far
By HappyGod on 2012-10-31 02:26:32
> > I download the "upgrade assistant" app to check whether I could upgrade. This made me a bit nervous as I was running a pirate version of Win7. And ... it didn't work.

Seriously? You expected a legitimate commercial OS to upgrade your pirated, hacked version? You were setting yourself up for failure, but I think that was the point of your "experiment". Next time try installing from scratch like any other sane person would when faced with your situation. You just invalidated the rest of your rant with this bullshit.


Wow. I think it might be time to switch to decaf there buddy.

Precisely none of the issues I encountered were the result of the fact that my copy was pirated. And for each of the issues I encountered there are many thousands of people on fora with precisely the same issues, who were not running a pirated version.

Now, step away from your keyboard. Make yourself a nice cup of tea, and go do the crossword.

Edited 2012-10-31 02:28 UTC
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RE[3]: Not Ringing My Bell So Far
By Morgan on 2012-10-31 02:34:01
You might want to get your eyes checked (since we're apparently exchanging health advice). The very text I quoted from you was your first issue, and your words were it didn't work, which was a direct result of using a pirated copy and you gave Microsoft a negative point in your assessment as a result.

My point being, if you're going to go to the trouble to do a serious evaluation of a software product, do it with the legitimate software and not a compromised version. Whether or not the pirated copy was the cause of any issues (and you already admitted it caused an issue before denying it later), you're polluting the test pool. Therefore, I can't take you the least bit seriously.

Edit: And for what it's worth, yes there are a multitude of issues with Windows 8, which is why I have said in the past (after reviewing the release previews) that I'm on the fence about it altogether. I agree with you: There are a lot of problems they must address. My issue here is solely with your "designed to fail" experiment.

Edited 2012-10-31 02:40 UTC
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