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Regarding the ITC's exclusion order against Apple
By Thom Holwerda on 2013-08-01 09:36:40
Recently, the ITC ruled in favour of Samsung, issuing an exclusion order against certain Apple products, barring them from being sold in the US. Several people have called upon president Obama to step in and overrule the decision (e.g. this guy) - however, not only would this set a very bad precedent for non-US companies, it would also simply be incredibly unfair if you actually look at the ITC ruling itself. Because of this, it is quite unlikely that Obama will step in.
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RE: Comment by Nelson
By Thom_Holwerda on 2013-08-01 11:38:48
It's not a defense at all. I never once said I agree with the exclusion order - in fact, I think it's ridiculous.

However, and I tried to explain this to you before, if Apple abuses the patent system with crappy software patents as an aggressor, then sure as hell the attacked get to defend themselves.

If I punch you, I sure shouldn't be crying if I get one in return.
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RE: Comment by Nelson
By WereCatf on 2013-08-01 11:38:48
Why is it that quite often when you open your mouth the air is filled with the stench of bullshit?
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RE: Comment by Nelson
By dvhh on 2013-08-01 11:39:49
The why should Samsung product get banned when Apple product should not.
I've think that Apple already gained ban on multiple Samsung product in Europe (probably Germany). And has requested ban of multiple Samsung product in the US as well.
While I agree that most patents are nonsense, nobody seem to move away from it.
I see no defense the patent system, it is implied that if Apple wanted to play the patent game, it also had to solve its licencing . Samsung is only playing by the same rules as Apple here (speaking of copycat), and using the same weapons.
I feel no sympathy for either of the companies (disclosure : neither of them have gifted me with anything of value superior to 5$, and I don't own share nor interest in any of those), although I am more annoyed by Apple fans than Samsung fans.
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RE: Comment by Nelson
By gilboa on 2013-08-01 11:45:04
> A full throated defense of the patent system when Samsung is the one granted exclusion orders. Why am I not surprised.

No, the patent system is completely broken and there not much anyone can do to fix it.
I doubt that many here disagrees with this statement.

However, given the fact that Apple more-or-less tried to bully Samsung out of the mobile market by using stupid design and utility patents - throwing the first punch (or 1,000 of them), I can't say that I'll shed a single tear if/when Samsung (somehow) manages to pummel Apple into the ground.

As the saying goes, does who live by the sword, die by the sword.

- Gilboa

Edited 2013-08-01 11:46 UTC
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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
By JAlexoid on 2013-08-01 11:52:41
It's not a software patent.
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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
By Nelson on 2013-08-01 11:59:03
Oh come on. Apple gets an exclusion order there's melodrama and sarcastic sniping about "free market at work".

Samsung gets one and there's rationalizations a page long. Give me a break.

As usual you play your semantic game and hide from the spirit of your post.
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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
By Nelson on 2013-08-01 12:00:49
Are you asking me to explain your own opinion to you? What's the point of your comment?
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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
By Thom_Holwerda on 2013-08-01 12:03:11
If you're the only one among many claiming grass is purple, you might consider the possibility you are wrong.
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RE[4]: Comment by Nelson
By Nelson on 2013-08-01 12:05:30
Logical fallacy. I'm not saying your reasoning is wrong, it may very well be right. I'm noting your difference in tone and wording when it comes to Samsung and Apple.

Samsung gets a legal justification from you, Apple gets snide remarks.
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what goes around...
By nicolasgoddone on 2013-08-01 12:18:38
What goes around comes around. Apples time to bite the dust, the thing is that they will not be able to make changes to address them, they will have to settle by opening the war chest. I think all of this sales blocks enforced by more than questionable software patents are statements of a necessary USTPO revamp.

I think that stock holders should somehow express their saying regarding these companies legal splurge campaigns that do not necessarily correlate to people buying more of their products each time they score some ban here or there. Price wars benefit the consumer not legal ones
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