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Blocking Windows 7, 8.1 updates for Kaby Lake, Ryzen chips imminent
By Thom Holwerda on 2017-03-16 23:09:20

Ars Technica reports:

A recently published Knowledge Base article suggests that Microsoft is going to block Windows Updates for owners of the latest Intel and AMD processors if they try to run Windows 7 or 8.1.

Last year, Microsoft announced a shift in the way it would support Windows. Going forward, new processors, including Intel's Kaby Lake and AMD's recently-released Ryzen, would require the newest version of Windows. Users of Windows 7 and 8.1 would be out of luck, with Microsoft having no plans to support the new chips on the old operating systems.

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RE: win-win?
By birdie on 2017-03-17 20:53:14
Just don't leave your ports open to the internet and even intranet. Windows 7 SP1 without updates can be pwned remotely if your have SMB ports open.

Also have a good AV installed because your system can be remotely hacked by feeding you with "bad" fonts which cause an overflow in the kernel.

Actually don't browse the Internet using your Windows 7 then. It's not safe because there are other attack vectors.

Edited 2017-03-17 20:55 UTC
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RE[6]: Remember BIOS lies?
By Brendan on 2017-03-17 21:13:29
Hi,

> So it would be better to avoid running inside of virtualization all together assuming it's possible to change CPUID - I don't know if this is true on intel processors, but apparently it can be done on AMD and VIA processors in order to sidestep CPUID based discrimination, ironically at the hands of Intel itself:

http://www.osnews.com/story/2268...

This only changes the "vendor ID" returned by CPUID; and not the "family, model, stepping" or the feature flags it says it supports.

Also note that we don't know exactly what Microsoft would test or why. Maybe they'll only look at the "vendor and product ID" (in PCI configuration space) of the integrated GPU (and refuse to support newer GPUs) and won't look at CPUID at all. Maybe they'll look at something in the firmware's ACPI tables (for differences in CPU power management) and won't look at CPUID at all.

> So maybe Intel has anticipated the need for users to change CPUID on the basis of discrimination against it's own processors...although I haven't found any tools to do this yet.

I haven't found anything that a tool like this could use in any of Intel's documentation (including documentation primarily intended for firmware developers and OS developers).

- Brendan
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Microsoft Sucks
By icicle on 2017-03-17 21:23:19
Is there an agenda to keep most people on a close sourced operating system so that they can continue to spy on us through "updates"?
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RE[2]: win-win?
By darkhog on 2017-03-17 22:25:28
Who even does use SMB these days? I personally have small ftp server made for file exchange and for printer, I have a Pentium MMX machine that boots into barebones Linux system and offer printers connected to it via CUPS (which can be mapped to Windoze as a network printer even if printer in question doesn't have any network capabilities by itself).
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Well,
By darkhog on 2017-03-17 22:28:40
with the moves like that Year of Linux Desktop is not only inevitable, it will be quite soon too especially since certain AAA games (Mankind Divided, Witcher 3) are available on Linux already so gaming soon won't be an issue (or rather an excuse to not use Linux since most of the new titles work just about fine via Wine/PlayOnLinux) either.

Edited 2017-03-17 22:40 UTC
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RE[3]: win-win?
By Alfman on 2017-03-18 00:02:31
darkhog,

> Who even does use SMB these days? I personally have small ftp server made for file exchange and for printer, I have a Pentium MMX machine that boots into barebones Linux system and offer printers connected to it via CUPS (which can be mapped to Windoze as a network printer even if printer in question doesn't have any network capabilities by itself).

I think network drives are terrific, I don't even bother saving files locally because my NAS is always backed up and accessible from all my machines. It's not that I'm particularly attached to the SMB protocol, but nothing else I've used seems to work as well.

I like SFTP, but I'm not willing to give up on having a locally mountable file system. Copying the files around using an ftp client would be a large step backwards for me. One of my criticisms of android is that it doesn't support direct mounting of SMB (or SFTP), having to copy files between filesystems in order to use them is extremely annoying.

I've been considering something like AFS, but I haven't really looked into it much. I'm open to alternative protocols, but mounting as a local file system is a requirement for me.

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Windows 10 is better
By tberty on 2017-03-18 08:45:55
This move is to force us to upgrade to Windows 10 for using those types of chips. However, I think that's a good move.
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RE[2]: This type of policy...
By JLF65 on 2017-03-18 15:05:37
> > Is known as "Forced Obsolescence".

No, forced obsolescence means you can't run new OS versions on older hardware.


He means forced obsolescence of the OS, not the hardware. MS is forcing their old software into obsolescence so they can get everyone running the new software.
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RE[5]: This type of policy...
By BluenoseJake on 2017-03-18 15:32:47
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE \Policies\Microsoft\Windows Store

Create a new value REG_DWORD, name it RemoveWindowsStore. Set it's value to 1

Finished

Security unviolated.

Edited 2017-03-18 15:33 UTC
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RE[5]: This type of policy...
By meme on 2017-03-18 16:35:02
Windows 10 LTSB Enterprise comes without Windows Store in the first place. Without Cortana and other junk too.

It's actually the only somewhat usable Windows edition; too bad normal people cannot purchase it.
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