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Don't tell people to turn off Windows Update, just don't
By Thom Holwerda on 2017-05-15 23:08:32

Troy Hunt hits some nails on their heads:

If you had any version of Windows since Vista running the default Windows Update, you would have had the critical Microsoft Security Bulletin known as "MS17-010" pushed down to your PC and automatically installed. Without doing a thing, when WannaCry came along almost 2 months later, the machine was protected because the exploit it targeted had already been patched. It's because of this essential protection provided by automatic updates that those advocating for disabling the process are being labelled the IT equivalents of anti-vaxxers and whilst I don't fully agree with real world analogies like this, you can certainly see where they're coming from. As with vaccinations, patches protect the host from nasty things that the vast majority of people simply don't understand.

Great article, which also goes into Windows Update itself for a bit.

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RE: Everyone in this thread...
By w250 on 2017-05-18 12:23:28
some of us have special use cases, see http://www.osnews.com/permalink?... for mine.

and please note, i keep the four work computers continuously updated, via the methods detailed in a previous post.
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RE[3]: Everyone in this thread...
By oiaohm on 2017-05-18 21:41:10
> My experience with the Windows updates has been pretty much positive. They will have to screw it up a lot to exceed the annoyance back in the day of upgrading from Debian woody to sarge, which took me four hours to fix and which I will remember forever. And when I rebuilt that server I went with Redhat/Fedora. Debian, bah.
As soon as a line starts with My experience stop.

Why because some people running Windows 10 some have had the wrong combination of hardware and had worst fault woody to sarge. Windows 10 wrong hardware and update system resulted not booting even into safe mode. woody to sarge update. I had 4 debian running machines at the woody to sarge event 3 made it ok 1 had trouble. So it was luck of the draw if the woody/sarge issue effected you exactly like Windows 10 update issues.

Please note having to go back to 2005 when sarge release was is before debian introduces
https://piuparts.debian.org/
That has lowered the distribution upgrade faults down massively. This is something Ubuntu has not implemented and I would question how complete Microsoft automated patch testing is.

https://piuparts.debian.org/
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RE: The second updates started carrying spyware..
By modmans2ndcoming on 2017-05-19 01:31:26
people have been turning them off since the 90's
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RE: Break/Fix and Retail Computer Repair
By modmans2ndcoming on 2017-05-19 01:33:34
idiot
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RE[2]: If we're going to make crazy comparisons
By modmans2ndcoming on 2017-05-19 01:34:44
apparently you have not installed or updated a windows 10 machine. It is easier than dealing with OS X.
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RE[3]: Everyone in this thread...
By modmans2ndcoming on 2017-05-19 01:43:10
woody to sarge was awful!
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RE: Turning Windows Update on by default is wrong.
By modmans2ndcoming on 2017-05-19 01:45:36
If you are actively using your computer there is 0% chance that you will get a forced reboot because it asks you if you want to reboot now or defer for a few hours.

If you need to ensure that you are not rebooted during business hours then you can schedule your reboots to occur off hours, once a week.

Leaving them on by default is perfectly fine.
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RE[4]: Windows update is a scam
By zlynx on 2017-05-19 03:04:15
Enough bandwidth can hide the problems, I guess. It isn't the best solution.

I used to do very well on 144Kbps and later 1.5Mbps with a Linux router doing QoS.

The biggest issue today is buffer bloat. Instead of dropping packets the systems buffer up multiple seconds of data. TCP/IP can't handle that. It expects an overloaded link to drop packets and that is how it knows to back off.

But if you can't change the router then there aren't many options so you're stuck.

Still, good QoS can make almost any link usable. I used to download hundreds of megabytes while simultaneously playing MMO and FPS games with a ping under 100 ms and sharing the link with my parents doing web and email, all at 144 Kbps. It's all about packet priorities and latency.
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RE[2]: Turning Windows Update on by default is wrong.
By zlynx on 2017-05-19 03:10:07
I've seen people click those popup windows without ever reading them. Its some kind of unconscious action. See a popup, click it as fast as you can! Like it scores points somehow.

Then I ask "What did it say?" and they don't know.
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