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ReactOS 0.4.5 released
By Thom Holwerda, submitted by AmineKhaldi on 2017-05-18 21:50:51

ReactOS 0.4.5 has been released.

Thanks to the work of Katayama Hirofumi and Mark Jansen, ReactOS now better serves requests for fonts and font metrics, leading to an improved rendering of applications and a more pleasant user experience. Your continued donations have also funded a contract for Giannis Adamopoulos to fix every last quirk in our theming components. The merits of this work can be seen in ReactOS 0.4.5, which comes with a smoother themed user interface and the future promises to bring even more improvements. In another funded effort, Hermès Bélusca-Maïto has got MS Office 2010 to run under ReactOS, another application from the list of most voted apps. Don’t forget to install our custom Samba package from the Application Manager if you want to try it out for yourself.

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RE: Same old bollox from the commenters
By BlueofRainbow on 2017-05-19 15:43:18
Whether it is based on Windows (desktop) XP or Windows Server 2003, I would be happy if it is compatible enough to install and run the device drivers for my camera, photo printer, plain printer, scanner, and audio/video capture devices from that era.

On top of this, if Google was ever releasing a ReactOS specific version of Chrome, then it would be approaching an ideal situation as this would allow to "run" these devices via the Chrome Remote Desktop App.
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RE[2]: Same old bollox from the commenters
By ebasconp on 2017-05-19 16:33:23
ReactOS is an impressive work of engineering, the guys behind it code it in their spare time and, although not having all the needed resources, their work is right there, working and getting better and better.

So, if we really really need those drivers to be running on ReactOS, we can code them by ourselves or donate money to the project to fund that development.

Otherwise, the only thing we can say to the ReactOS engineers is: Thanks.

Edited 2017-05-19 16:34 UTC
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RE: Same old bollox from the commenters
By galvanash on 2017-05-19 17:39:45
> What is useful to note is that it is based upon Windows server 2003

No offense dude, but its 2017. XP, Server 2k3, whats the difference? They are both like fossils at this point...

I'm not knocking the project, I just don't see what difference your distinction makes.
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RE[4]: impressive
By ssokolow on 2017-05-19 17:58:57
I just hope their WOW thunks replicate the "Win16 on Wine32 on Linux64" capability of desktop Linux.

That, combined with the classic theme, would make for a great way to legally build authentic-feeling retro-gaming boxes without having to track down old Windows install media on eBay.

(Thankfully, I still had my old Win98SE install media when a P133 showed up in a pile of retired AGP-era ~3GHz machines.)

Edited 2017-05-19 18:00 UTC
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Partitioning is such sweet sorrow
By orfanum on 2017-05-19 18:00:16
I am afraid I will have to step between blind condescension and knee-jerk praise by making a plea to the devs to examine the way in which their OS-specific bootloader works.

It doesn't and it gives a bad impression.

I am not a geek, a developer or a programmer but I am a reasonably computer-literate person who has been installing alternative and hobby operating systems for the best part of 20 years.

I had wanted to give ReactOS a serious spin for some time. After admiring it in a VM I thought the time had come to try it out on bare metal (a PIII rescued from the kerbside and lovingly restored), giddy with the fun I was already having with my legit copies of Win98 and XP to create a retro gaming machine.

Not only was it difficult to remove the bootloader, even following the instructions but the installation completely screwed up my partition table, and necessitated the laborious process of starting from scratch again with the aforementioned other phantoms of Redmond.

I guess the aim of ReactOS is to be in the end a drop-in replacement for you-know-what. At the very least it is probably targeted at people like me.

Maybe the engineering is impressive, maybe we should be thanking the devs and doffing our collective cap but frankly, I am unlikely ever to take the system out on a date again.

Which is an enormous pity.

(Edited for typos)

Edited 2017-05-19 18:02 UTC
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RE: Partitioning is such sweet sorrow
By Pro-Competition on 2017-05-19 20:08:46
> I am afraid I will have to step between blind condescension and knee-jerk praise by making a plea to the devs to examine the way in which their OS-specific bootloader works.

It doesn't and it gives a bad impression.


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> Maybe the engineering is impressive, maybe we should be thanking the devs and doffing our collective cap but frankly, I am unlikely ever to take the system out on a date again.

Which is an enormous pity.


I think that ruling out the entire OS forever, because of a bootloader problem, is an overreaction. Isolated components like that are the easiest to fix (when they get around to it).

I would recommend checking it out once in a while in the VM, and waiting for news on the bootloader. (Or installing it on its own drive, of course.)

For my purposes, it's not ready to replace my last Windows (virtual) machine, but it's getting closer, and I can't wait until it is!
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RE[3]: Same old bollox from the commenters
By BlueofRainbow on 2017-05-19 20:59:39
A lot depends on how well ReactOS is compatible with Windows XP/2003 for the driver interface(s).

What would be helpful is a "Devices Tested" page listing outcomes of installing/using the Windows XP/2003 drivers for the devices. Inputs would be from the community more than from the developers.
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RE[2]: Same old bollox from the commenters
By Megol on 2017-05-19 21:04:24
> > What is useful to note is that it is based upon Windows server 2003

No offense dude, but its 2017. XP, Server 2k3, whats the difference? They are both like fossils at this point...

I'm not knocking the project, I just don't see what difference your distinction makes.


It shows that people complain about things while not even reading about the project and its goals - _THAT_ makes a huge difference.
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So you want the new thing all the time without thinking why? What API level support do you need from Windows 10 that server 2003 doesn't provide?

Remember that we are talking about API/ABI and not features in general.
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RE[4]: impressive
By Milan Kerslager on 2017-05-19 21:51:41
> ...XP is probably one of the most insecure OSes still in daily use. That's pretty much the whole reason for the UAC in Vista (which everyone hated) and also why Vista and 7 broke so many XP applications.

The problem in XP is using Administrator account for everything. And the major problem is that Vista+ systems just bring in UAC instead of stop using Administrator for everything. It is like use raincoat to stay dry instead of go home.
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RE[3]: Same old bollox from the commenters
By galvanash on 2017-05-19 23:54:03
> So you want the new thing all the time without thinking why? What API level support do you need from Windows 10 that server 2003 doesn't provide?

The same stuff that Windows XP doesn't provider either? That was my point. WHY does it matter that it is based on 2k3 instead of XP, when they are virtually identical at the API/ABI level? They were released less than 2 years apart, and they are both very, very old now.

You make it sound like being an XP clone is somehow bad, but being a Server 2k3 clone is somehow good? It is the same thing.
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