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Nintendo unveils SNES Classic, doesn't include Chrono Trigger
By Thom Holwerda on 2017-06-26 18:30:07

Nintendo has revealed details for the SNES Classic. The standalone mini console will feature 21 games, including Super Mario World, Earthbound, Super Mario Kart, and The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past. But the most surprising inclusion is Star Fox 2, the unreleased sequel to the original Star Fox for SNES.

No Chrono Trigger.

Why would I buy a SNES if I can't play the best game ever made on it? This is a baffling, dealbreaking omission.

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Probably don't own the rights
By trethlyn on 2017-06-26 18:47:18
I believe Chrono is a Square Enix title. All the titles are Nintendo owned.

Edit: I'm wrong cause Secret of Mana is also a Square Enix title. Mega Man X and Street Fighter are Capcom. I wonder if there's a shared ownership between those companies for those titles.

Edited 2017-06-26 18:49 UTC
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RE: Probably don't own the rights
By CaptainN- on 2017-06-26 18:55:06
It is especially weird not to include Chrono Trigger and do include Secret of Mana. Maybe they think it would cannibalize iOS or Android sales? That would seem unlikely.
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Comment by Gusar
By Gusar on 2017-06-26 19:05:20
At least Final Fantasy III is there. If they had released this without a FF title, it'd be downright stupid. But yeah, the omission of Chrono Trigger is baffling.
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RE: Probably don't own the rights
By Straylight on 2017-06-26 19:06:12
Also Final Fantasy III is on that list. I second your bafflement as one of the most interesting features of Secret of Mana was the ability to use a multi-tap and have 3 friends play together. I don't think you'll be able to do that on this mini one? Chrono Trigger would have been a better choice in that sense (although Secret of Mana is great).
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No cartridges? WTF?
By aliver on 2017-06-26 20:02:21
Why not include the damn cartridge slot? Don't give me "manufacturing cost" as a reason, either. It's quite nominal (having fab'd a few boards myself) to include that hardware.

It's a lot like a "greatest hits" collection. I mean it's cool in some ways because it just generates motion around the retro scene (motion != action, but isn't bad). For someone like me, it's just rehashing old stuff without anything new to offer (other than HDMI which isn't nothing).

I'd much rather them have released a premium SNES with HDMI, better sound (HDMI, built in RCA on the head unit, or PCM over optical), better connectors such as built-in composite RGB, and a network interface to do remote-internet-based-coop- gaming. Plus, if they were smart, they'd put in firmware to allow for a "game store" ala the WII, 3DS, or Switch. Now THAT would have been worth waiting and paying for.

Taking away my cartridge slot made the whole thing like some kind of rinky-dink drugstore ripoff console from retron or someone even lower rent (at least the Retron has a cartridge slot!).

Keep in mind I still have a real SNES hooked up to a Sony 20" Trinitron PVM monitor. So, this is absolutely worthless to me. One can have all the SNES games on a single SD card via a Super EverDrive. Granted it's $200 but if you really wanted a big game endownment... that's far superior to 30 pre-picked games.
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Are you a Telepath?
By panzi on 2017-06-26 21:05:35
This is the exact article I would have written. So either you can read my mind... or my Twitter feed, where I said about the same.

Reading that headline was really eerie, because it really was reading my own inner dialog.
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Availability problems again?
By laffer1 on 2017-06-26 21:08:50
I hope they actually make enough of them this time. I was unable to find a NES classic locally and the few auctions online were going for insane amounts.
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Retrofitting
By flanque on 2017-06-26 22:32:23
Fingers crossed we work out how to add more of the catalogue to the device, though with custom chips on the carts this would probably have some limitations I presume.

No Mario All Stars?!
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RE: No cartridges? WTF?
By sergio on 2017-06-26 22:35:11
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Keep in mind I still have a real SNES hooked up to a Sony 20" Trinitron PVM monitor. So, this is absolutely worthless to me. One can have all the SNES games on a single SD card via a Super EverDrive. Granted it's $200 but if you really wanted a big game endownment... that's far superior to 30 pre-picked games.


100% agree.

To me, the biggest NES/SNESmini sin is the lack of an ANALOG video output... playing low resolution games created for CRT displays in a modern LCD TV is an atrocious experience and It's not representative of how these games looked back in the day at all.

The so called "pixel art" look is a fucking lie, back in the day you didn't see blocky graphics in a SNES game!! SNES games looked (and look) AMAZING in a CRT TV even by today standards. The blocky mess people usually see in modern LCD TVs when they play retro games is not the real deal because those graphics were not designed for digital discrete displays like LCD.

Classic games must be played on CRT TV/monitors to be representative of what they ware. Modern generations don't get real deal with these HDMI emulator boxes like the NES or the SNES mini, they are misleading representations of what We enjoyed.
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RE: No cartridges? WTF?
By leech on 2017-06-26 22:38:00
Oddly, the ATGames Atari / Sega flashback things do it a bit more right. 1) they include cartridge ports on their non-mobile systems. And their mobile systems have SD card slots.

Downside is they don't provide a save feature for anything you put on the SD card...
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