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How "fake news" could get even worse
By Thom Holwerda on 2017-07-16 22:52:20

No. Mr Astley did not rework his song. An artist called Mario Klingemann did, using clever software. The video is a particularly obvious example of generated media, which uses quick and basic techniques. More sophisticated technology is on the verge of being able to generate credible video and audio of anyone saying anything. This is down to progress in an artificial intelligence (AI) technique called machine learning, which allows for the generation of imagery and audio. One particular set-up, known as a generative adversarial network (GAN), works by setting a piece of software (the generative network) to make repeated attempts to create images that look real, while a separate piece of software (the adversarial network) is set up in opposition. The adversary looks at the generated images and judges whether they are "real", which is measured by similarity to those in the generative software's training database. In trying to fool the adversary, the generative software learns from its errors. Generated images currently require vast computing power, and only work at low resolution. For now.

People aren't even intelligent enough to spot obviously fake nonsense written stories, and those were enough to have an impact on the US elections. The current US president managed to "win" the elections by spouting an endless barrage of obvious lies, and the entire Brexit campaign was built on a web of obvious deceit and dishonesty.

Now imagine adding fake video into the mix where anyone can be made to say anything.

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lol
By Tuishimi on 2017-07-18 01:32:55
Says the person who writes "I think android is a dead end, but I don't know why".
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RE[6]: Comment by judgen
By unclefester on 2017-07-18 03:08:06
You don't seem aware that 80-90% of Western journalists openly identify with the far left of politics.

Newspapers are in the business of confirmation bias. They simply tell their like-minded readers what they want to hear - that Trump is evil and stupid - and make no pretence of presenting a balanced story. [How many newspapers mentioned the fact that Trump was met by cheering crowds during his recent trip to Poland?]

AFAIK no mainstream newspaper journalist ever bothered to publicise JFKs womanising, mafia connections, apalling health, prescription drug abuse, total incompetence as the commander of PT109, lack of intellect or plagiarised speeches.
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RE[4]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By grandmasterphp on 2017-07-18 03:16:54
> Keep in mind, bush jr. also won, even though he wasn't especially bright either. It's true her campaign raised more, his campaign raised $1B versus hillary's $1.4B, but being a TV celebrity also helped him get unparalleled airtime.

According to bloomberg he raised half of what she had:

https://www.bloomberg.com/politic...

There is this myth that George Bush was extremely stupid if you watch video years before he became president he comes across quite well. I suspect he was far past his prime.

> There would still be two parties if everyone's vote counted equally, the politics would just have to align around the new center represented by a popular vote instead.

Most politics is around the centre. There isn't really anything approaching Right wing (David Cameron and Tony Blaire wasn't that politically different) in the UK and politics are generally being moved to the left in the anglosphere for quite a while. A lot of what is called right wing these days is simply slightly right of centre.

> You are right, trump benefited from divisions in the democratic party. Don't know if you remember but something similar happened with ross perot taking substantial votes away from republicans and allowing bill clinton to win twice. If it weren't for perot, clinton probably didn't have the numbers to win a second term. If the democratic party doesn't stand unified, they could loose votes again in 2020.

They won't win in 2020 because they are have doubled down on identity politics. Hillary pissed off a lot of people with her "basket of deplorables" and what I have seen from Democrats so far they haven't seen to have got the message that most people don't like identity politics.

Also her campaign team managed to get trolled by 4chan which was still the funniest part of the election.

4chan are still trolling them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...

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RE[4]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By unclefester on 2017-07-18 03:22:29
Dubya had a higher SAT score and a higher GPA than Al Gore. He was also a Harvard MBA and ANG fighter pilot. His IQ is most likely around 130.

If a Republican POTUS had a MIT PhD, a Fields Medal and unshared Nobel Prizes in Physics and Literature the press would still claim he was a moron.

Former conservative Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott was a Rhodes Scholar is commonly portrayed as an idiot in the Australian press.
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RE[5]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By Alfman on 2017-07-18 05:52:37
grandmasterphp,

> According to bloomberg he raised half of what she had:

https://www.bloomberg.com/politic...

The washington post data generally agrees except for the fundrasing committees, which is significantly higher for both parties. It's possible bloomberg didn't have all the data in at the time it published:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/gr...

Not to negate your point though, historically the democratic party does outspend the republican party. It could be because of the electoral college bias mentioned earlier.


To be honest campaigns have been disappointing all around. They should focus on solid plans that make our lives better, but instead they focus personal attacks that are designed to distract from the issues. Trump really showed aptitude for plan avoidance, dragging opponents through the mud, and getting television ratings, but that isn't enough to run the country. Without a solid plan the US risks becoming less relevant on the world stage.

> There is this myth that George Bush was extremely stupid if you watch video years before he became president he comes across quite well. I suspect he was far past his prime.

...you could say the same about trump I guess, haha.
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RE[5]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By Alfman on 2017-07-18 06:26:21
unclefester,

> If a Republican POTUS had a MIT PhD, a Fields Medal and unshared Nobel Prizes in Physics and Literature the press would still claim he was a moron.


Not at all, you've read me wrong. My criticisms aren't based on political parties, but rather their own actions.

Some republican principals can make a lot of sense, but there are too many unethical men running the party who are not acting in the interests of constituents (not entirely unlike the democratic party), and for this the middle class will suffer.

Edited 2017-07-18 06:37 UTC
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Obama lip sync
By Adurbe on 2017-07-18 08:27:09
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/techn...

Take examples like this, where words are put into the mouth of the leader of a country in such a believable way, once posted on youtube (which is not vetted) then a generated video can quickly become viral. True or not, it can change perceptions, reinforce stereotypes, or worse. By the time it is "stopped" the damage is already done.

Edited 2017-07-18 08:27 UTC
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RE[6]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By unclefester on 2017-07-18 08:59:41
The reality is that virtually every President in history has been above average in intelligence and a handful have been highly intelligent. Almost all have had an IQ in the 120-140 range. In general their performance in the role was inversely proportional to their intellect.

However if you read the mainstream press you'd think that every Democrat has been a genius and every Republican has been a moron. There is even a hoax website that has claims Clinton had an IQ of 182 and GW Bush had an IQ of 91.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S...
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Reminds me of this article
By Lennie on 2017-07-18 12:22:52
https://singularityhub.com/2016/0...
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RE: Old TV series "Mission Impossible"...
By dionicio on 2017-07-18 13:41:29
The New in these news is that AI is helping to "select" the best fakes among the fakes. It's bringing "expertize" to the mases. AI is the new shining tool -not only at finding crime- but also, to commit it.
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