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How "fake news" could get even worse
By Thom Holwerda on 2017-07-16 22:52:20

No. Mr Astley did not rework his song. An artist called Mario Klingemann did, using clever software. The video is a particularly obvious example of generated media, which uses quick and basic techniques. More sophisticated technology is on the verge of being able to generate credible video and audio of anyone saying anything. This is down to progress in an artificial intelligence (AI) technique called machine learning, which allows for the generation of imagery and audio. One particular set-up, known as a generative adversarial network (GAN), works by setting a piece of software (the generative network) to make repeated attempts to create images that look real, while a separate piece of software (the adversarial network) is set up in opposition. The adversary looks at the generated images and judges whether they are "real", which is measured by similarity to those in the generative software's training database. In trying to fool the adversary, the generative software learns from its errors. Generated images currently require vast computing power, and only work at low resolution. For now.

People aren't even intelligent enough to spot obviously fake nonsense written stories, and those were enough to have an impact on the US elections. The current US president managed to "win" the elections by spouting an endless barrage of obvious lies, and the entire Brexit campaign was built on a web of obvious deceit and dishonesty.

Now imagine adding fake video into the mix where anyone can be made to say anything.

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RE: Old TV series "Mission Impossible"...
By dionicio on 2017-07-18 14:03:28
AI being so organic, not being right or wrong, just better or worst fitted to the task. The issue of catching it on the mix becomes a hunch, a feeling -a matter of art-.

Feel personal uncomfort on this non asked intimacy with technology.
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RE[7]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By Alfman on 2017-07-18 14:08:40
unclefester,

> The reality is that virtually every President in history has been above average in intelligence and a handful have been highly intelligent. Almost all have had an IQ in the 120-140 range. In general their performance in the role was inversely proportional to their intellect.

However if you read the mainstream press you'd think that every Democrat has been a genius and every Republican has been a moron. There is even a hoax website that has claims Clinton had an IQ of 182 and GW Bush had an IQ of 91.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S...

Don't see what any of that has to do with me, to be honest. The "mainstream press" is not the reason trump looks dumb to many people. The reason trump looks dumb is because he never has a thorough plan, he certainly can't articulate one. When confronted over his lack of substance does he ever give a strong rebuttal? No he doesn't, he just lashes out like a bully and seemingly cannot make a convincing argument on it's own merit, preferring to pivot and blaming everyone else for everything.

Sure he would claim to have an intelligent plan, the best and most intelligent plan even, but anyone who's looking for substance will see this is a man who's used to lying about how great he is to get his way. And I know trump supporters would like nothing more than to blame everyone else (like the media), but maybe they should take a moment to reflect and consider that their candidate really isn't as good as they wish he were.

Edited 2017-07-18 14:14 UTC
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RE: Obama lip sync
By dionicio on 2017-07-18 14:19:43
"By the time it is "stopped" the damage is already done. "

Few BIG actors have the resources to detect those "documents" on the wild. Even fewer have the resources to stop them.

We are living a global war on truths. This is WAR.
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RE[6]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By grandmasterphp on 2017-07-18 16:09:44
[quote]Trump really showed aptitude for plan avoidance, dragging opponents through the mud, and getting television ratings[/quote]

As for personal attacks, Trump had it from day one from pretty much everyone and some of the stuff that said was pretty disgusting tbh (especially those insinuating that he had some sort of incestuous relationship with his daughter).

You know what the real genius was, he managed to basically turn most of this around in his favour. e.g. He managed to get the more left wing media outlets to transmit an entire rally as he was going to say something about the birther conspiracy theory, which he left deliberately to after the rally and said one sentence saying that he didn't believe it was true anymore. He effectively got his whole rally televised without paying a penny.
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RE[3]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By modmans2ndcoming on 2017-07-18 21:36:27
Sanders was not shafted. That was made up bullshit. He lost the primary based on the votes he received just like Hillary lost in 2008 based on the votes she received.
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RE[7]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By Alfman on 2017-07-19 01:55:43
grandmasterphp,

> As for personal attacks, Trump had it from day one from pretty much everyone and some of the stuff that said was pretty disgusting tbh (especially those insinuating that he had some sort of incestuous relationship with his daughter).

This has nothing to do with me or anyone else posting here. Go ahead and condemn personal attacks like that, but at least be consistent and condemn trump for doing it too!
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RE[8]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By grandmasterphp on 2017-07-19 07:42:40
> This has nothing to do with me or anyone else posting here.

I didn't say it was. When I referred to everyone, I meant MSM etc.

Edited 2017-07-19 07:43 UTC
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RE[8]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By grandmasterphp on 2017-07-19 08:57:16
> Go ahead and condemn personal attacks like that, but at least be consistent and condemn trump for doing it too!

Most of Trumps "personal attacks" were especially during the selection process were nothing more than "Trash talking". I do the same with my mates all the time, I just found it funny that a Presidential candidate was the one doing it.
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RE[9]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By Alfman on 2017-07-19 14:07:58
grandmasterphp,

> Most of Trumps "personal attacks" were especially during the selection process were nothing more than "Trash talking". I do the same with my mates all the time, I just found it funny that a Presidential candidate was the one doing it.

It highlights the hypocrisy.
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RE[10]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By grandmasterphp on 2017-07-20 00:41:01
Everyone is hypocritical. Politicians lie.

Please grow up a bit an understand some realpolitik.
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