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How "fake news" could get even worse
By Thom Holwerda on 2017-07-16 22:52:20

No. Mr Astley did not rework his song. An artist called Mario Klingemann did, using clever software. The video is a particularly obvious example of generated media, which uses quick and basic techniques. More sophisticated technology is on the verge of being able to generate credible video and audio of anyone saying anything. This is down to progress in an artificial intelligence (AI) technique called machine learning, which allows for the generation of imagery and audio. One particular set-up, known as a generative adversarial network (GAN), works by setting a piece of software (the generative network) to make repeated attempts to create images that look real, while a separate piece of software (the adversarial network) is set up in opposition. The adversary looks at the generated images and judges whether they are "real", which is measured by similarity to those in the generative software's training database. In trying to fool the adversary, the generative software learns from its errors. Generated images currently require vast computing power, and only work at low resolution. For now.

People aren't even intelligent enough to spot obviously fake nonsense written stories, and those were enough to have an impact on the US elections. The current US president managed to "win" the elections by spouting an endless barrage of obvious lies, and the entire Brexit campaign was built on a web of obvious deceit and dishonesty.

Now imagine adding fake video into the mix where anyone can be made to say anything.

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RE[11]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By Alfman on 2017-07-20 01:23:30
> Everyone is hypocritical. Politicians lie.

Trump lies more than others though :(


> Please grow up a bit an understand some realpolitik.

Haha, I know you don't want to admit it, but trump is the one who needs to hear that.

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RE[11]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By _txf_ on 2017-07-20 01:31:31
This:
> Please grow up a bit
And this:
> I just found it funny that a Presidential candidate was the one doing it.

Are extremely incongruous.

Edited 2017-07-20 01:32 UTC
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RE[12]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By grandmasterphp on 2017-07-20 14:20:49
It is perfectly fine to find something amusing while not agreeing / condoning it. I am sure I am not the first person to laugh inappropriately.

Edited 2017-07-20 14:36 UTC
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RE[12]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By grandmasterphp on 2017-07-20 14:31:03
> Trump lies more than others though :(


Does he lie more? Got any stats on that?

> Haha, I know you don't want to admit it, but trump is the one who needs to hear that.

I am from the UK, I am not a Trump supporter (but I did win a lot of money on bets with him winning the republican primary and the election). I don't have skin in the game. You could consider me to be playing the devils advocate somewhat.

As for RealPolitik. I think he understands it just fine. He said some stuff during the election campaign where it was quite obvious he understood it.

The tax comment he made during one of the debates was golden.

The whole Mother of all bombs drop was a good way to tell NK they should settle down.
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RE[4]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By grandmasterphp on 2017-07-20 14:50:23
Yes he was.
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RE[13]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By Alfman on 2017-07-20 15:58:14
grandmasterphp,

> Does he lie more? Got any stats on that?

Have you've never watched trump speak, haha, lying is his modus operandi. But sure, politifact is a non-partisan organization that keeps stats on it.

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> I am from the UK, I am not a Trump supporter (but I did win a lot of money on bets with him winning the republican primary and the election). I don't have skin in the game. You could consider me to be playing the devils advocate somewhat.

I see, well I think many republicans have to play devil's advocate these days in defending trump, they don't want to betray the party but at the same time...ugh.


> As for RealPolitik. I think he understands it just fine. He said some stuff during the election campaign where it was quite obvious he understood it.

I donno man, some might have argued this during the election, but now with his experience on display he's proving to be quite unprepared in practice. If he understood politics so well, his administration shouldn't be this inept. It's unusual for a president to struggle so much right off the bat with a majority congress of their own party.

I completely understand the sentiment of people voting in an outsider, but in the end I think trump will prove to be a terrible mistake in two ways: lack of leadership & experience, and turning his back on working class families.

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RE[14]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By grandmasterphp on 2017-07-20 16:10:10
Oh there we go.

In context how much was that hyperbole?

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RE[15]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By Alfman on 2017-07-20 17:34:33
grandmasterphp,

> Oh there we go.

In context how much was that hyperbole?


I'm really not sure what you are talking about here, but again if you are against hyperbole, then will you at least criticize trump for it as well? He has a long history of exaggerating claims.
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RE[16]: Comment by grandmasterphp
By grandmasterphp on 2017-07-20 17:42:47
Do you think it was hyperbole or not? It is quite simple.

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By icicle on 2017-07-20 18:02:44
"The current US president managed to "win" the elections by spouting an endless barrage of obvious lies, and the entire Brexit campaign was built on a web of obvious deceit and dishonesty."

NOW THAT IS FAKE NEWS. WHAT UTTER BS!

Want proof?

What lies are you referring to?

What deceit are you referring to?

Extraordinary claims requires extraordinary proof. You're just parroting the mainstream media garbage.
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